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thikone:

--- Quote from: rsjsouza on November 06, 2022, 01:03:19 am ---
--- Quote from: thikone on November 06, 2022, 12:37:19 am ---Am I crazy or is there others who think this way? Not that I'm big fan of Apple, but what is equivalent of iPad in oscilloscope world?

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UI and niceties are very alluring. At work I have been using a larger number of oscilloscopes and the higher end models tend to have much faster processors to handle the UI. Due to the sheer cost of such equipment, however, the purchase decisions will forcefully require compromise. That is what an iPad or iPhone used to give you a few years ago: polish but at the expense of the latest features.

At home I drive an advanced Rigol (DS4014, hackable) and its UI is not as polished as the R&S RTA or as smooth as the KS DSOX3014A at work. However, I am convinced everyday of my decision at the time whenever I look at the bang per buck ratio of these two advanced models Hackability is what placed Rigol on the map and I would never be able to afford an equipment at such advanced level for my home.

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There is (or there was?) a promotion of RTB2000 scopes. I managed to snatch one fully loaded RTB2K-COM4 for "just" 4.272,00 EUR instead of 8k+ EUR...

Was hard to find it on stock though. A credit from my bank made it possible and also that I could request it from the bank's app on Sunday evening without going to bank in person. Thanks to RBBVNL9 for comprehensive compares to SDS2000X+, after watching them I decided that I "want" to get R&S. It really feels that R&S user interface compared to that of Siglent is like iOS 5.0 compared to early versions of Android. Also in a sense that even though SDS2000X+ has more features, those implemented in RTB2000 work just right (polished UI). And we can say at the price of iPad compared to an Android tablet. Oh well, I also say to myself that my first oscilloscope is also my second one, if that makes sense. At least as long as my car is cheaper than MXO4-COM4 and I would really "need" one.   ;D

I'm mostly Arduino/STM32 and repair guy, managed to do without oscilloscope till now. Don't have logic analyzer either. USB to UART and STLink was enough. But always wanted to learn how to use oscilloscope. And for that I "wanted" a proper one.
2N3055:

--- Quote from: thikone on November 22, 2022, 01:48:03 pm ---
--- Quote from: rsjsouza on November 06, 2022, 01:03:19 am ---
--- Quote from: thikone on November 06, 2022, 12:37:19 am ---Am I crazy or is there others who think this way? Not that I'm big fan of Apple, but what is equivalent of iPad in oscilloscope world?

--- End quote ---
UI and niceties are very alluring. At work I have been using a larger number of oscilloscopes and the higher end models tend to have much faster processors to handle the UI. Due to the sheer cost of such equipment, however, the purchase decisions will forcefully require compromise. That is what an iPad or iPhone used to give you a few years ago: polish but at the expense of the latest features.

At home I drive an advanced Rigol (DS4014, hackable) and its UI is not as polished as the R&S RTA or as smooth as the KS DSOX3014A at work. However, I am convinced everyday of my decision at the time whenever I look at the bang per buck ratio of these two advanced models Hackability is what placed Rigol on the map and I would never be able to afford an equipment at such advanced level for my home.

--- End quote ---

There is (or there was?) a promotion of RTB2000 scopes. I managed to snatch one fully loaded RTB2K-COM4 for "just" 4.272,00 EUR instead of 8k+ EUR...

Was hard to find it on stock though. A credit from my bank made it possible and also that I could request it from the bank's app on Sunday evening without going to bank in person. Thanks to RBBVNL9 for comprehensive compares to SDS2000X+, after watching them I decided that I "want" to get R&S. It really feels that R&S user interface compared to that of Siglent is like iOS 5.0 compared to early versions of Android. Also in a sense that even though SDS2000X+ has more features, those implemented in RTB2000 work just right (polished UI). And we can say at the price of iPad compared to an Android tablet. Oh well, I also say to myself that my first oscilloscope is also my second one, if that makes sense. At least as long as my car is cheaper than MXO4-COM4 and I would really "need" one.   ;D

I'm mostly Arduino/STM32 and repair guy, managed to do without oscilloscope till now. Don't have logic analyzer either. USB to UART and STLink was enough. But always wanted to learn how to use oscilloscope. And for that I "wanted" a proper one.

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Nice commercial for R&S.. You paid 2000€ more than for Siglent that is more capable because you like R&S design. It is nice that you're happy. Good for you.
Having to take a loan to buy a scope for a hobby would be a giant red flag for me...

I personally don't buy anything Apple because it is not worth it. Android phone works just fine for me. For fraction of fraction of money. I guess we are all different and have different priorities.

That being said, since you say it is your first scope, be prepared for steep learning curve.. Be patient there is lot to learn and read. R&S has many documents you should read.. So you can actually use the scope to the full.

Best,
balnazzar:

--- Quote from: 2N3055 on November 22, 2022, 02:21:31 pm ---
I personally don't buy anything Apple because it is not worth it. Android phone works just fine for me. For fraction of fraction of money. I guess we are all different and have different priorities.


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I don't buy Apple phones as well because I just make calls with my phone and not much else. But for laptops (not desktops) and tablets, I buy Apple. Just 1 grand will give you a fanless laptop that is very well built, faster than a windows laptop that costs twice that price, and with a battery that lasts 12-15 hours. For tablets, I do a lot of note-taking, and the iPad provides a much better writing experience than the high-end android tablets I tested.
Black Phoenix:

--- Quote from: balnazzar on November 22, 2022, 03:49:03 pm ---I don't buy Apple phones as well because I just make calls with my phone and not much else. But for laptops (not desktops) and tablets, I buy Apple. Just 1 grand will give you a fanless laptop that is very well built, faster than a windows laptop that costs twice that price, and with a battery that lasts 12-15 hours. For tablets, I do a lot of note-taking, and the iPad provides a much better writing experience than the high-end android tablets I tested.

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I'm in this with you. My last iPhone was the 5S, and I'm still a iPod user.

Currently running an Android. But the new M1 is definitely a powerful, game changing chip. For desktops I prefer the custom build route.

Android Tablets the only one that really hit the mark is not manufactured anymore, the nVidia Tegra. Currently there is no market equivalent for the iPad.
Fungus:

--- Quote from: Black Phoenix on November 22, 2022, 05:18:15 pm ---But the new M1 is definitely a powerful, game changing chip.

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Maybe so, but you have to put up with MacOS if you want to use it.
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