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| floobydust:
Keysight Technologies $6.6 million settlement Aug.9,2021 for violations of Arms Export Control Act. Exporting radar testing S/W to Russia and china and Canada. The other stuff to Iran was Anite's problem. Signal Studio for Multi-Emitter Scenario Generation software (“MESG software”). Point is Keysight does need to track some sales for ITAR and sanctions? But I can't see a 34470A as a threat, so selling to non-corporate entities is not a crime. |
| YetAnotherTechie:
Here, registering as "sole trader" (which might not even be accepted by KS), but technically allows for VAT collecting, comes with a minimum social security contribution of >62eur a month, since it's presumed that you make at least minimum wage from your bussiness. |
| Cerebus:
--- Quote from: nctnico on August 26, 2021, 07:49:04 pm --- --- Quote from: Cerebus on August 26, 2021, 07:27:45 pm --- --- Quote from: nctnico on August 26, 2021, 06:24:35 pm --- --- Quote from: 6thimage on August 26, 2021, 05:46:50 pm --- --- Quote from: Keysight DanielBogdanoff on August 26, 2021, 05:03:36 pm ---Regarding the Europe/VAT ID/non-business concerns, that's an area that I unfortunately can't help or circumvent/shortcut around the official channels/statements. If I could I would 100% have done it already. --- End quote --- Is there any chance you can explain the reasoning behind the change? Keysight's position isn't great, but it would be more palatable if we at least had a reason why. It would be fantastic if you could provide a list of the required criteria for classing a business, but I know this will probably be a bit of a stretch. --- End quote --- What do you think about simply registering a business? I get the feeling that this thread is more about a unique situation in the UK where people running a business don't register their businesses formally and now are suddenly confronted by a different culture where having a company formally registered is the norm. --- End quote --- The issue is it isn't "simply registering a business", it's not just an issue of "getting a piece of paper", running a registered company in the UK comes with significant recurring administrative overhead. It is both unnecessary and disproportionate for many small businesses which is precisely why there are so many sole traders in the UK. --- End quote --- So all major corporations should change due to the UK having a half baked system that makes it difficult to register a small company? Assuming your statement about the administrative overhead is actually true (IOW: taking more than 1 day per year to fill in and costing more than say around 300 pounds). Maybe start hammering the UK government to have some official 'sole trader' status. I see that it is possible to apply for a company VAT ID without much hassle in the UK; that could be a good starting point. --- End quote --- You seem to be insistent that the mountain comes to you. It won't. Similarly the DNA of British business and administration is not going to change because you have deemed this to be "simple" to do. |
| mikeselectricstuff:
--- Quote from: nctnico on August 26, 2021, 07:49:04 pm ---I see that it is possible to apply for a company VAT ID without much hassle in the UK; that could be a good starting point. --- End quote --- The problem with that is that once you are registered, you must charge VAT on all sales & services, and submit returns accounting for it. If you mostly supply to business then registering is a no-brainer as you can reclaim VAT on all purchases, but if a significant market is individuals or non-VAT registered businesses then it basically means your prices go up 20% |
| bdunham7:
--- Quote from: floobydust on August 26, 2021, 08:09:08 pm ---Point is Keysight does need to track some sales for ITAR and sanctions? But I can't see a 34470A as a threat, so selling to non-corporate entities is not a crime. --- End quote --- I hadn't seen that latest case. Yikes! One thing that may muddle the issues, especially in some of the feeble-minded sorts that make some of these decisions, is the difference between sensitive technology and technology used in sensitive areas. Case in point--my Simpson 270 case that an NSN-search sort of company declined to sell to me after enquiring about end-user status and so forth. The Simpson 270 is still used today in some pretty sensitive areas--there are probably a bevy of them at Pantex (of course I have no direct knowledge of that...) and in missile silos everywhere. So if you know that fact only, but don't understand that the characteristics that make it useful in that area are completely non-sensitive in and of themselves, you may conclude that you might get in trouble if you sell Simpson 270 parts to the wrong party. And who knows--you might. These are probably the same geniuses that feel the need to wipe the calibration data from analog oscilloscopes before they leave the building. |
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