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A broken 34470A and Keysight's terrible customer service
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tomud:
@nctnico

But what does it matter ?  You can run a business and not be a VAT payer not only in the UK. Such a thing is often profitable when providing services for people (not for companies). So here we have discrimination against companies that are not VAT payers (I have many friends who provide RTV / GSM repair services and they settle accounts this way because it is more beneficial for them).

For example, I myself have a company that is a VAT payer. I can buy equipment for my home (hobby) for the company (deducting VAT and income tax), the question is is this fair ? Therefore, so far I have bought hobby equipment privately.

Well, I wonder if something happens to the oscilloscope (dsox3054A) for which I paid a lot of money , the company will tell me "fuck off" and forget about repair (I'm talking about a paid service after a guarantee) ?

Something seems to be wrong here, since nobody said something like that when buying the equipment. Now at least I know to look for another multimeter, because I also wanted to buy Keysight (and it would be a big mistake).

I skip the whole discussion about who buys the equipment. In fact, if I would like to, in a few days I can set up a company for the homeless person I meet;) buy equipment and sell it to whomever I want... These are the Himalayas of the absurd - it is difficult to define otherwise.

mikeselectricstuff:

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--- Quote from: nctnico on August 26, 2021, 07:49:04 pm ---I see that it is possible to apply for a company VAT ID without much hassle in the UK; that could be a good starting point.

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The problem with that is that once you are registered, you must charge VAT on all sales & services, and submit returns accounting for it. If you mostly supply to business then registering is a no-brainer as you can reclaim VAT on all purchases, but if a significant market is individuals or non-VAT registered businesses then it basically means your prices go up 20%

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Well, you can also ask whether you want to run a business that stays well under the 85000 pound turnover limit forever?

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Plenty of people run a business as a sideline to a normal job
KaneTW:
It's an absolute no brainer to VAT register if you're a sole trader, just purely from a financial perspective, unless you sell primarily to customers and the extra sales would make up for the 20% extra cost on supplies.

Returns are quarterly and the only effort on my part is putting them in a folder and maybe telling my accountant what kind of expense they are. Doesn't cost more than a couple hundred a year. Or you can do it for free for some extra paperwork.
Cerebus:

--- Quote from: KaneTW on August 27, 2021, 12:17:07 am ---It's an absolute no brainer to VAT register if you're a sole trader, just purely from a financial perspective, unless you sell primarily to customers and the extra sales would make up for the 20% extra cost on supplies.

Returns are quarterly and the only effort on my part is putting them in a folder and maybe telling my accountant what kind of expense they are. Doesn't cost more than a couple hundred a year. Or you can do it for free for some extra paperwork.

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The point isn't whether it is or is not a good idea for the circumstances of a particular business. It is whether an existing business should be forced to do this, incurring ongoing costs and risks, just to get service from Keysight for a Keysight product that Keysight or one of their distributors has already sold them.
Bassman59:

--- Quote from: floobydust on August 26, 2021, 08:09:08 pm ---Point is Keysight does need to track some sales for ITAR and sanctions? But I can't see a 34470A as a threat, so selling to non-corporate entities is not a crime.
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It doesn't matter what we consider to be, uh, interesting under ITAR. All that matters is what the people who decide such things decree.
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