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A newbie needs some help with my first DSO
2N3055:
--- Quote from: Electro Fan on June 03, 2024, 09:13:18 am ---
--- Quote from: Fungus on June 03, 2024, 12:38:32 am ---
--- Quote from: 2N3055 on June 02, 2024, 12:18:21 pm ---Why do you think you cannot move around captured buffer on Siglent? You can. Exactly the same as on any other scope.
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But normally there's nothing there.
(unless you previously zoomed out, re-captured, then zoomed in again trying to remember the horizontal scale you were at before you did all that, yes, we got that...)
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Not trying to debate, but I think Fungus’ comment is correct - yes?
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No it is not..
If you deliberately misuse equipment contrary to how it is supposed to be used you get bad results.
Fungus:
--- Quote from: awakephd on June 03, 2024, 12:23:56 am ---I am planning to test and experiment with the effectiveness of basic R/C de-bounce filters on various switches.
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Sounds like a perfect example of where the Siglent way is going to be a pain in the ass. You'll be forever zooming in to look at detail then forgetting to zoom out again to prepare the 'scope for the next capture.
Someone:
--- Quote from: Electro Fan on June 03, 2024, 09:13:18 am ---
--- Quote from: Fungus on June 03, 2024, 12:38:32 am ---
--- Quote from: 2N3055 on June 02, 2024, 12:18:21 pm ---Why do you think you cannot move around captured buffer on Siglent? You can. Exactly the same as on any other scope.
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But normally there's nothing there.
(unless you previously zoomed out, re-captured, then zoomed in again trying to remember the horizontal scale you were at before you did all that, yes, we got that...)
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Not trying to debate, but I think Fungus’ comment is correct - yes?
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Its more of the same omissions of conditions and imaginary problems.
There is no need to take another capture. 2N3055 explicitly says within the captured buffer. It's right there in the quote. Set the capture buffer to collect what you want it to, which is done by either method. The only difference is illustrated above by the large image I quote, whether or not there is a split in the display for the long and short views at the same time, or if the user has to manually switch between them.
Yet fungus somehow twists that around to the method already showing all the content and requiring fewer adjustments of the controls... apparently needing more work and additional steps (in their imagination). Which is not true in practice. Remember this is the poster who started out confidently wrong in "helping" the beginner with factually false information.... noise and post count ahead of truth and assistance.
Perhaps you can explain how the comment is correct? Or Fungus could explain how it is correct? Rather than these endless: nah you're wrong!
Someone:
--- Quote from: Fungus on June 03, 2024, 10:08:22 am ---
--- Quote from: awakephd on June 03, 2024, 12:23:56 am ---I am planning to test and experiment with the effectiveness of basic R/C de-bounce filters on various switches.
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Sounds like a perfect example of where the Siglent way is going to be a pain in the ass. You'll be forever zooming in to look at detail then forgetting to zoom out again to prepare the 'scope for the next capture.
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How many times do you want to post this crap? You're factually incorrect.
The scope in question can plainly capture a long time segment, its deep memory allows the sample rate to be maintained to longer horizontal timebases then other competitive examples.
This achieves the same capture depth as setting the memory depth to force capture around the window as other brands/models do. There is nothing requiring additional captures.
The ZOOM function does not change the horizontal timebase. Your lazy method of using the horizontal time base to zoom in and out would be the problem. But that is not required, or a logical way to use the scope. Not zooming out does nothing to change the capture depth, it's always set by the horizontal time base independent of the zoom position and scale.
So why keep pushing a beginner, who asked for some clarity on the best way to use their scope, away from the way that scope is designed to be used?
KungFuJosh:
--- Quote from: Someone on June 03, 2024, 10:21:14 am ---So why keep pushing a beginner, who asked for some clarity on the best way to use their scope, away from the way that scope is designed to be used?
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100%. It's frustrating for those of us with some experience to see the nonsense, it can't be fun for beginners that are actually trying to learn.
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