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| newtekuser:
Thanks all for the responses and for sharing your experiences! Upon doing more research I've decided to pass on the Agilent. I'm now strongly considering the SDS3000X HD (350MHz version) and will pull the trigger on it when the time is right. --- Quote from: exmadscientist on May 24, 2024, 05:42:57 am ---Heck, if you don't want the MSO-X, let me know and I'd be interested at $2k! I'm in a similar boat, looking for a new scope for professional use (we're one scope short around here, and as usual management doesn't think it's an issue, so I'm looking at buying something with my own money that no manager will be able to "reassign" away from me). The Siglents are really strong offerings so they're getting most of the looking. Right now I'm using the backup SDS1202X-E which is a fine little guy except for that little "2" at the end of the part number... "professional use" and "2-channel scope" aren't really all that compatible. Is there much between the 2000X-HDs and the 3000X-HDs in daily use, apart from active probe support? (And being black. Being black is very important!) I know the specs are somewhat better, but specs don't really mean all that much for day-to-day use of a scope. I'd benefit from having a 1GHz scope for the next... week?... so I'm looking more at the 3000X-HDs than I probably should be. (Certainly, if the SDS3034X-HD was unlockable to 1GHz, that would probably seal the deal.) But I don't actually need that kind of bandwidth more often than every other year or so. Active probes are a big deal though, I have historically spent an awful lot of quality time with current probes and diff probes (especially the TDP0500/TDP1000). As to the MSOX3024... I used to use a MSOX4054 a couple jobs back. It's a great scope, really nice to drive because of how responsive it is. It's difficult to communicate to someone who hasn't used one, but the thing just immediately does what you tell it do and that is great. Its memory depth is of course its Achilles heel, with a craptacular 1Mpts. Or less. This matters more to some engineers than to others. If they could get this architecture to 20Mpts or better, it would be a no-brainer choice for anyone who could afford it... but that's not the product they have on the market. It can do really well paired with something like a Saleae with long memories... but who wants to do that as a matter of course? Still... for $2k... very interesting. --- End quote --- @exmadscientist, search for "MSOX3024A Oscilloscope 200 MHz 4 Analog 16 Digital Channels Wave Gen Agilent" on eBay - it is listed for $2,295.00 and sold by user eBay user tm4sale09. They sent me an offer for $2000 so I'm sure they'll take yours if you're interested. |
| nctnico:
BTW: At this budget it could be worthwhile to wait for the release & tests of Batronix' Magnova oscilloscope. |
| newtekuser:
--- Quote from: tautech on May 24, 2024, 01:51:54 pm --- --- Quote from: AndyC_772 on May 24, 2024, 01:29:41 pm ---........ In terms of performance (waveforms/sec), I don't know how they compare. Siglent only quotes a useless "up to" figure in the manual, and I found the actual throughput to be orders of magnitude slower when I did some testing a few weeks ago. Given that all the models in the range are only given "up to" specifications, it's impossible to know how they actually compare, and asking about it seems taboo. --- End quote --- Fact check from the 3000A X-Series datasheet: > 1,000,000 wfms/sec = Siglent just followed HPAK. --- Quote ---804X HD --- End quote --- Compares $440 DSO against something nearly 20x the cost. :-X --- End quote --- Intriguing... can you please point me to this document? The only Siglent scope I can see in their line-up that does 1.000.000 WFMS/s is the 7000 series which starts at $20K+ https://siglentna.com/digital-oscilloscopes/ Am I looking in the wrong place? |
| skander36:
--- Quote from: nctnico on May 24, 2024, 05:25:47 pm ---BTW: At this budget it could be worthwhile to wait for the release & tests of Batronix' Magnova oscilloscope. --- End quote --- I don't know ... 1.6 Gsa/s for at least 2800E? And for the moment is not for sale to US ... |
| nctnico:
--- Quote from: skander36 on May 24, 2024, 08:58:11 pm --- --- Quote from: nctnico on May 24, 2024, 05:25:47 pm ---BTW: At this budget it could be worthwhile to wait for the release & tests of Batronix' Magnova oscilloscope. --- End quote --- I don't know ... 1.6 Gsa/s for at least 2800E? And for the moment is not for sale to US ... --- End quote --- I don't care about samplerate or waveforms/s. There is a chance though it works better compared to the choices the OP has listed. While everyone is obsessing over waveforms/s, bandwidth and samplerate, the most important thing is overlooked: how convenient is an oscilloscope to use? That makes all the difference in the world! |
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