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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #250 on: July 19, 2017, 04:46:34 pm »
any chance of the rest of the schematic?
i'm curious about the star on the resistor and the function of the jumper.
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #251 on: July 19, 2017, 05:15:29 pm »
any chance of the rest of the schematic?
i'm curious about the star on the resistor and the function of the jumper.

RLD is the signal input pin, i.e. short the jumper in NCV measurement

I think the resistor value (10M) is not that critical. It just connect the antenna to the ground.




 
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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #252 on: July 19, 2017, 09:59:16 pm »
I received my AN8008 21 days after buying it on Ebay.  Shipped from China.  I paid $10.00 for it plus $4.34 for shipping, or a total of only $14.34.  For that price, it is a  remarkable meter.  I checked it on most ranges and functions and it easily meets its specifications, usually much better. It comes with 2 sets of test leads and a wide range of tip adapters. The built-in stand is flimsy but usable.
 

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« Reply #253 on: July 19, 2017, 10:57:46 pm »
NCV measurement from the AC voltage signal into the RLD IC, the measurement results show five grades, 0 ~ 50mV display EF, 50 ~ 100mV / 100 ~ 150mV / 150 ~ 200mV / 250mV or more to 4 show a '-' character (adjustable) and with(?) the rhythm buzzer sound.

Applications need to be adjusted according to the value of Rx and the induction line. NCV measurement and the minimum resolution that can be set E2 (In 0.1mV): 25h (H) & 24h (L) set in base NCV measurements, 27h (H) & 26h (L) NCV resolution setting,
Calculated as the measured value :( - in base) / = 0 ~ 4 Resolution (rounded result), the count is greater than 4. 4. Such as:
25h (H) & 24h (L) = 0064h, 27h (H) & 26h (L) = 0096h, measuring the induced signal = 50.0mV, then LEVEL = (50.0-10.0) /15.0~=2, the display section 2 '- -. "

Optional PT1.2 NCV function as a control indicator (E2 provided F9h.bit0 = 1). When no signal PT1.2 = 0, a letter.
When the number PT1.2 with buzzer output, buzzer PT1.2 = 1, and 0 otherwise. This setting has no effect on other functions, PT1.2 = 1.
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #254 on: July 20, 2017, 03:27:17 am »
I spent time reverse-engineering and figured out the schematic but the IC (die) pinout a bit different than DTM0660. The actual MCU must be the same family but with better A/D resolution and external Vref.
My guess is Dream Tech International writes the firmware for the multimeter MCU.

From Russian AN8008_1715xxxxx EEPROM dump I can see unused functions- such as temperature measurement, hFE, middle current, non-contact AC voltage detection (NCV) etc.
Should be possible to enable some eggs.

I could not find a UART TX line. I think the die-bonding wire is not brought out  :(
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #256 on: July 20, 2017, 03:17:38 pm »
GBP 8.99 including shipping. Wonder how much profit is left from that?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AN8008-True-RMS-Digital-Multimeter-9999-Counts-Square-Wave-Voltage-Ammeter-AC-DC-/162596699062

Isn't that one possibly a fraud? Considering the price, not the seller.
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #258 on: July 20, 2017, 03:30:36 pm »
Have not bought myself, but I get a choice of paypal or creditcard at checkout when I try.  Isn't payment options handled by ebay?  :-//
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #259 on: July 20, 2017, 04:42:16 pm »
Have not bought myself, but I get a choice of paypal or creditcard at checkout when I try.  Isn't payment options handled by ebay?  :-//
After selecting PayPal as payment option and logging in, there was an error saying the payment option isn't available.
And now the product has been removed from seller's listings. Either the payments were disabled because of possibility of that listing being a fraud, or the item was removed earlier and it took a while until that got synchronized across the servers  :-//

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #260 on: July 20, 2017, 04:47:45 pm »
Sounds like a "deal breaker", at least now you can afford a sandwich!
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #261 on: July 20, 2017, 05:44:54 pm »


Quote from: crazyguy on Yesterday at 19:15:29


>Quote from: stj on Yesterday at 18:46:34
any chance of the rest of the schematic?
i'm curious about the star on the resistor and the function of the jumper.

Here is the translated datasheet into english, with automated software help.






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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #262 on: July 20, 2017, 08:27:17 pm »
I got better stability and accuracy after changing the big bypass cap.
I found 3VDC rail has ~30mVpp of noise, low freq. (1kHz) and high freq. from DMM IC charge-pump.

The PCB has places for four 22uF 1206 decoupling capacitors C10, C14, C15, C16 but what's populated is one through-hole 100uF 16V YXA electrolytic that has poor ESR.
Changed to 47uF+two of 22uF X7R 6.3V (total measures 84uF) and 1/3 the noise now. Readings are more consistent and repeatable. Before I always had 2-5 counts variation.

The ICL8069DCZQ 1.2Vref is pretty quiet, C11 0.1uF across it but datasheet gives 4.7uF so you could upsize.
 
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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #263 on: July 20, 2017, 11:22:06 pm »
hardware mods - nice.

i need to check my 8002 board - it uses a YXA, maybe stuff a polymer cap in instead. :)
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #264 on: July 21, 2017, 04:30:19 am »
Ordered one on ebay from China. Almost 16€, but had a 15€ coupon for a 20€ order so I added a magnetic usb and paid less than 6€.

Let's see when arrives...

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #265 on: July 21, 2017, 10:14:03 am »
I wonder what the MOQ would be for a slightly customized AN8002 or AN8008. Bonded TX pin and remove the fake CAT markings.
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #266 on: July 21, 2017, 10:53:46 am »
There's another suspicious listing on eBay, I guess this model is becoming very popular?
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #267 on: July 21, 2017, 01:22:13 pm »
Got my 2 today. Nice and small. Useful when one runs out of DMMs and still need to measure something.
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #268 on: July 21, 2017, 02:20:42 pm »
I wonder what the MOQ would be for a slightly customized AN8002 or AN8008. Bonded TX pin and remove the fake CAT markings.

i wouldnt call the CAT markings fake without checking the detail - the fuses dont count.
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #269 on: July 21, 2017, 02:26:20 pm »
I got better stability and accuracy after changing the big bypass cap.
I found 3VDC rail has ~30mVpp of noise, low freq. (1kHz) and high freq. from DMM IC charge-pump.

The PCB has places for four 22uF 1206 decoupling capacitors C10, C14, C15, C16 but what's populated is one through-hole 100uF 16V YXA electrolytic that has poor ESR.
Changed to 47uF+two of 22uF X7R 6.3V (total measures 84uF) and 1/3 the noise now. Readings are more consistent and repeatable. Before I always had 2-5 counts variation.

The ICL8069DCZQ 1.2Vref is pretty quiet, C11 0.1uF across it but datasheet gives 4.7uF so you could upsize.
Nice job.
These are easy hacks that everyone can do and are very affordable :)
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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #270 on: July 21, 2017, 02:39:29 pm »
i wouldnt call the CAT markings fake without checking the detail - the fuses dont count.

Sure they do. A meter with a CAT rating has to live or die safely at that rating with the selector switch in any position.

If the fuses are stamped "250V" then they can't possibly claim it's 1000V CAT rated. Simple as that.

 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #271 on: July 21, 2017, 02:41:01 pm »
Got my 2 today. Nice and small. Useful when one runs out of DMMs and still need to measure something.

Still didn't get mine.  >:(

 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #272 on: July 21, 2017, 02:54:41 pm »
If the fuses are stamped "250V" then they can't possibly claim it's 1000V CAT rated. Simple as that.
Especially since that 250 V is likely only applicable to AC. A 1000 V rating requires the fuses to also work at 1000 VDC.
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #273 on: July 21, 2017, 03:09:58 pm »
Quick test:

Took a 1.5V battery and measured the battery voltage with two AN8008 and one UT61E simultaneously: AN8008s displays 1.565 +/- 0.001 and UT61E 1.5655 +/- 0.0001.

Current measurement test with the three DMMs in series in uA range: 3.37 uA +/- 0.01 uA.
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #274 on: July 21, 2017, 03:56:38 pm »
fuses are only for reading current, the CAT ratings are only for reading voltage.

*and i'm pretty sure they dont cover the ability to do something stupid like spining the rotary switch while the leads are hot.
 


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