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ANENG goes crazy with new meters
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Fungus:

--- Quote from: Phil1977 on April 19, 2024, 06:42:18 am ---This list is great, but because manufacturers are more or less lying about their products. Sometimes they lie so much that it is more than obvious - like a small €6-meter I have on my bench that is labeled as CAT IV 600V.

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The lying isn't ideal, but:
a) Anybody who knows what "CAT IV 600V" is wouldn't believe it, and

b) Anybody who doesn't know it's a lie isn't going to be saved by them taking it off.

My (purely empirical) observation is that Harbor Freight has been giving away millions of DT830s for decades and there's no trail of dead bodies across the country.
Aldo22:

--- Quote from: Fungus on April 19, 2024, 08:24:02 am ---
--- Quote from: Phil1977 on April 19, 2024, 06:42:18 am ---This list is great, but because manufacturers are more or less lying about their products. Sometimes they lie so much that it is more than obvious - like a small €6-meter I have on my bench that is labeled as CAT IV 600V.

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The lying isn't ideal, but:
a) Anybody who knows what "CAT IV 600V" is wouldn't believe it, and

b) Anybody who doesn't know it's a lie isn't going to be saved by them taking it off.

My (purely empirical) observation is that Harbor Freight has been giving away millions of DT830s for decades and there's no trail of dead bodies across the country.

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That's exactly it. I'd like to see statistics on how many people have died as a direct result of using an AN870 instead of a Fluke in household applications.

My guess is 0.

And if you think you should do anything above CAT II with a $20 meter, then you're in God's hands anyway.

Yes, they shouldn't lie about the specs, but let's not spread FUD.
Kleinstein:
At least in Germany one should not do anything that need more than a CAT 2 meter without proper training. However reality is a different thing and there are cases that electrical jobs are done also from people who lack the training.  An unsafe meter is a problem especially for beginners - part of the proper training is to avoid situations where one really relies on the meter quality.  So a professional is less at risk from an unsafe meter.  There are not many accidents from unsafe meters, but even just a few are too many.  There no excuse for giving false CAT ratings - that is just plain stupid.

It is good the European customs at least sometimes cares about the regulation and stops some of the unsafe meters. A bit confusing there are sometimes even different meter versions for the EU and other markets (e.g. from uni-T): the EU version can have the better fuse and still the lower and more realistic CAT rating.
floobydust:

--- Quote from: Aldo22 on April 19, 2024, 08:49:00 am ---[...] Yes, they shouldn't lie about the specs, but let's not spread FUD.

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Let's also not spread confidence, certainty, conviction, faith in products with fraudulent, fake safety claims.
With china you simply don't know what they are selling.
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