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ANENG goes crazy with new meters
« on: October 29, 2020, 02:57:07 pm »
Looks like Aneng has a new collection of meters for the holiday season.

There's a new Bluetooth meter that connects to your phone:



A new pocket multimeter:

Edit: But the screen appears to be horrible in real life - give this one a miss!



A crazy colored new general purpose meter:



A new 9999 count "professional" multimeter:




Edit: That one ^^^ looks suspiciously similar to the crazy colored one.  :-//

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Re: ANENG goes crazy with new meters
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2020, 03:01:58 pm »
Are they still dangerous as fuck though?
 
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Re: ANENG goes crazy with new meters
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2020, 03:12:38 pm »
Well, at least they *look* good, though. I like the red go-fast look
 

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Re: ANENG goes crazy with new meters
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2020, 03:25:13 pm »
Are they still dangerous as fuck though?

if you use protection suit and thick rubber gloves with fire protection, it is pretty safe  ;D
 
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Re: ANENG goes crazy with new meters
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2020, 03:27:25 pm »
So basically if I buy an arc flash suit I'm good?

2021 fashion!

 
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Re: ANENG goes crazy with new meters
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2020, 03:27:40 pm »
Well, at least they *look* good, though. I like the red go-fast look

It certainly one-ups the new Uni-T styling: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/new-uni-t-ut61-series-(ut61e)/msg3301277/#new
 

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Re: ANENG goes crazy with new meters
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2020, 03:29:25 pm »
I'm struggling to think of a reason why you would want it to link to your phone via Bluetooth when it doesn't do data logging :wtf:
Who let Murphy in?

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Re: ANENG goes crazy with new meters
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2020, 03:31:07 pm »
That'll be so you can install a third rate Chinese app on your phone so they can steal your contacts and check you aren't a Uighur.
 
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Re: ANENG goes crazy with new meters
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2020, 03:41:30 pm »
Are they still dangerous as fuck though?

Yep. Just the way you like 'em!
 

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Re: ANENG goes crazy with new meters
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2020, 03:42:48 pm »
Are they still dangerous as fuck though?

No worries:
 

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Re: ANENG goes crazy with new meters
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2020, 03:53:11 pm »
3D rendered fuses for golden safety!


 

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Re: ANENG goes crazy with new meters
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2020, 04:55:33 pm »
Are they still dangerous as fuck though?
At least they’re only claiming CAT III 600V, unlike the many meters that fraudulently claim CAT IV 600V.

I'm struggling to think of a reason why you would want it to link to your phone via Bluetooth when it doesn't do data logging :wtf:
It does look like it’ll do trend graphing. But as for the use case of non-logging Bluetooth: I can think of two. 1) Remote readings, like if you need to put the meter in one place and then go control something somewhere else. 2) presentations, classroom instruction, streaming, etc: anywhere where being able to share the meter screen digitally. Much easier to read than a camera pointed at an LCD.
 

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Re: ANENG goes crazy with new meters
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2020, 05:28:55 pm »
Oh, that's tempting. I'd like something with remote logging and cheap. I also like that they finally put that fifth button that, afaik, is needed to put it into calibration mode.

What I don't like is big variety of models. I'd like to have two-three models to choose from, with clear distinction and/or comparison table.
 

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Re: ANENG goes crazy with new meters
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2020, 05:37:36 pm »
I wonder how hackable the Bluetooth protocol is...  :popcorn:
 

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Re: ANENG goes crazy with new meters
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2020, 06:07:46 pm »
Are they still dangerous as fuck though?
At least they’re only claiming CAT III 600V, unlike the many meters that fraudulently claim CAT IV 600V.

I'm struggling to think of a reason why you would want it to link to your phone via Bluetooth when it doesn't do data logging :wtf:
It does look like it’ll do trend graphing. But as for the use case of non-logging Bluetooth: I can think of two. 1) Remote readings, like if you need to put the meter in one place and then go control something somewhere else. 2) presentations, classroom instruction, streaming, etc: anywhere where being able to share the meter screen digitally. Much easier to read than a camera pointed at an LCD.
Yeah true, but I'd like to think that they would be using akin to a Fluke or Brymen meters in such a scenario for safety reasons  when you have untrained persons around.
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Re: ANENG goes crazy with new meters
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2020, 06:14:08 pm »
Yeah true, but I'd like to think that they would be using akin to a Fluke or Brymen meters in such a scenario for safety reasons  when you have untrained persons around.

Be thankful they're using an Aneng and not this.



(which I've actually seen people doing)
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Re: ANENG goes crazy with new meters
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2020, 06:28:26 pm »
Holy crap I had one of them albeit the Micronta variant about 35 years ago. It ended up dying after it went across the mains in ohms. The entire plastic section filled up with smoke so you couldn't see the needle. When the smoke cleared, the needle no longer existed. It is one of the greatest mysteries in my life so far.
 
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Re: ANENG goes crazy with new meters
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2020, 07:13:22 pm »
Well, thats a first, you managed to fry something instead of blowing it up  :-DD

I doubt that that meter even has a glass fuse in it.
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Re: ANENG goes crazy with new meters
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2020, 07:18:29 pm »
Oh crap, it seems that i will need my insulation gloves tonight if i accidentally touch my wife...
 
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Re: ANENG goes crazy with new meters
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2020, 07:24:14 pm »
I doubt that that meter even has a glass fuse in it.

That meter is the fuse  :-DD
 
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Re: ANENG goes crazy with new meters
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2020, 08:13:48 pm »
The Q10 looks better thought out, but USD$40 pricepoint? 3xAA batteries for backlight and at least the fuses seem to be 5x20mm which are OK for 250VAC and easier to find. It seems smaller than the 860. The silicone padding still leaves the sides slippery like a bar of soap.
To get around regulatory there is a safety sticker with consent to removal on the current jacks.

Hopefully ANENG has improved the rotary switch leafs from ghetto grade copper to something better. Maybe they've heard of nickel, brass, gold lol. It's sad I still use 40 year old multimeters as beaters because they are reliable.

AN9002 Bluetooth, we really need a multimeter standard for data so you aren't locked into a low quality app., something supporting sigrok.

Not to be my usual offensive but are they dumb or just have too much pride to ask us what features we like, and to get the English fixed up in their marketing and manual?
 

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Re: ANENG goes crazy with new meters
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2020, 08:38:52 pm »
There's "non-contact sensation", "square wave gear", and so on...

The only thing I am really impressed is the price of the top model: $40 is quite a lot for the quality shown in previous models. Sure, the AN870 is ok-ish, but their lesser models are quite low quality (I have their Richmeters' counterparts RM102Pro and RM219).

Oh well, at least the rotary switch does not have the idiotic "hfe" of the UT61E+
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Re: ANENG goes crazy with new meters
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2020, 10:08:23 pm »
Are they still dangerous as fuck though?
At least they’re only claiming CAT III 600V, unlike the many meters that fraudulently claim CAT IV 600V.

I'm struggling to think of a reason why you would want it to link to your phone via Bluetooth when it doesn't do data logging :wtf:
It does look like it’ll do trend graphing. But as for the use case of non-logging Bluetooth: I can think of two. 1) Remote readings, like if you need to put the meter in one place and then go control something somewhere else. 2) presentations, classroom instruction, streaming, etc: anywhere where being able to share the meter screen digitally. Much easier to read than a camera pointed at an LCD.
Yeah true, but I'd like to think that they would be using akin to a Fluke or Brymen meters in such a scenario for safety reasons  when you have untrained persons around.
Realistically, I don’t think any professionals would be buying these anyway. They’re hobbyist level. I can envision things where a home hobbyist might use remote display, like testing some kind of RC doodad, or  seeing how hot it gets in the shed (from the comfort of the air conditioned home).
 
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Re: ANENG goes crazy with new meters
« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2020, 01:34:18 am »
AN9002 Bluetooth, we really need a multimeter standard for data so you aren't locked into a low quality app., something supporting sigrok.

I can't think of a single reason why they'd make it difficult to decode, but ... only time will tell.

If it's obfuscated, well ... there's an app and Java is really easy to decompile.  ::)

Not to be my usual offensive but are they dumb or just have too much pride to ask us what features we like, and to get the English fixed up in their marketing and manual?

The broken English is beyond comprehension but relax and enjoy it.  :-DD
 

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Re: ANENG goes crazy with new meters
« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2020, 01:54:00 am »
The 9002 looks like it has potential to be a worthy successor to the 8008.  I like the jack arrangement and will be interested to see what Auto does.  Nice to add the rel and min/max.  Maybe next time for a bar meter.  Q10 could be nice too.
 


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