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Offline Electro Fan

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Re: LaPOD: Low cost Logic Analyzer probe for MSO5k, DHO900 and more!
« Reply #150 on: April 08, 2024, 03:43:44 am »

Have you made one of these yet? I'd be very interested to see one.
Me too :p


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oliv3r you do great work  :-+ :-+
 

Offline Songhua

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Re: LaPOD: Low cost Logic Analyzer probe for MSO5k, DHO900 and more!
« Reply #151 on: June 08, 2024, 10:59:01 am »
Now it's June 2024, have you made one?

Expect to see a real-working one.
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Re: LaPOD: Low cost Logic Analyzer probe for MSO5k, DHO900 and more!
« Reply #152 on: August 14, 2024, 03:50:18 pm »
Hi Guys,

So I made the thing. (POD_LMH7324 and Mini_HDMI_Breakout)
I ordered the PCBs and parts, and soldered by hand.
Checked for any dry joints or bridges. Didn't find any issues.
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However, when I connected the probe to the scope, it did not work at all. I also noticed that the LMH7324 is getting hot.

So I started checking the connections and noticed that some pins are shorting out only when the HDMI cable is plugged to both PCBs.

To narrow-down the issue, I connected a HDMI header and a mini HDMI header (not soldered to the PCBs) and started checking the connections between two ends.
And that's when I noticed that the pins of the mini HDMI connector (Type C) are not in the same order as the HDMI connector (Type A).
But in the mini_hdmi_breakout PCB, the pins are in the same order as the Type-A header.
(The cable I used is a high speed HDMI cable with Ethernet)
I think someone else also should test the pin connections and confirm this. (just to make sure...)

And this is the pin order I got with my test. (Sorry about the messy image. I am too lazy to make it pretty...  :=\ )
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There was no connection on pin 17 of mini HDMI connector. Not sure why though...

However, I think the HDMI breakout board should work fine. So I am going to order the PCBs for that.
« Last Edit: August 14, 2024, 04:00:15 pm by maxora »
 
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Offline Songhua

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Re: LaPOD: Low cost Logic Analyzer probe for MSO5k, DHO900 and more!
« Reply #153 on: August 14, 2024, 08:59:05 pm »
I'm very happy to see someone finally made an actual one.

I read that you had problems with the pins.

Did you fix it? Now. Please keep updating in this post. Appreciate your comments!
Test and Measurement Fundamentals video series on the Rohde & Schwarz YouTube channel:  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKxVoO5jUTlvsVtDcqrVn0ybqBVlLj2z8
 

Offline qmichl

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Re: LaPOD: Low cost Logic Analyzer probe for MSO5k, DHO900 and more!
« Reply #154 on: September 29, 2024, 08:32:46 am »
I built also one with pod_sn65lvds low cost pods. And I found that the TLV74325PDBVR is a 2.5V LDO, while the SN65LVDS391PWR requires 3.0V-3.6V supply voltage. So that is the wrong voltage regulator. And R13 need to go to +3.3V instead of GND, otherwise half of the channels on the pod are disabled. The breakout_hdmi (not mini) seems to work so far, still testing.
 

Offline qmichl

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Re: LaPOD: Low cost Logic Analyzer probe for MSO5k, DHO900 and more!
« Reply #155 on: October 04, 2024, 02:32:04 pm »
The pod_sn65lvds pods do not have GND of the SN65LVDS391PWR connected, that need to be fixed by a small wire.

The 100Ohm termination is not correct, that should be on the HDMI breakout instead on the pod_sn65lvds pod.
 

Offline jsobell

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Re: LaPOD: Low cost Logic Analyzer probe for MSO5k, DHO900 and more!
« Reply #156 on: November 19, 2024, 12:14:34 am »
Yes, I can see in the KiCAD schematic that the connectors pin numbers are incorrect  :-\
I suspect @Oliv3r simply replaced the full size with a mini version without realising it had a different pinout.
This is one of the main reasons I avoid KiCAD and use EASYEDA. At least with that product it uses the models directly from LCSC, so you're guaranteed to have the correct pinouts.

Sorry, I don't see an easy workaround, other than either reordering using the standard HDMI breakout, or correct the mini HDMI breakout board replacing all HDMI_A with  HDMI_C_1.3 components. It's the same schematic footprint, but with the pins corrected, but then you'll need to re-route the entire PCB to correct it  :(

Here are the two different connectors. Click the 'EasyEDA Model' link to see the pinouts.
https://www.lcsc.com/product-detail/HDMI-Connectors_SHOU-HAN-HDMI-19PIN-043_C2858275.html
https://www.lcsc.com/product-detail/HDMI%20Connectors_XKB-Connection-A71-05H4-111N1_C2682170.html
 


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