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Re: bench multimeter for someone learning
« Reply #100 on: March 30, 2023, 12:03:34 pm »
Another example of a thread going nowhere  .. it start good and get pretty darn stupid after a while  ....
 
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Re: bench multimeter for someone learning
« Reply #101 on: March 30, 2023, 12:15:23 pm »
Another example of a thread going nowhere  .. it start good and get pretty darn stupid after a while  ....

Like this?:


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Seriously, report crap as you would a spammer (which it is technically) and ignore it...
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Re: bench multimeter for someone learning
« Reply #102 on: March 30, 2023, 12:19:55 pm »
Another example of a thread going nowhere  .. it start good and get pretty darn stupid after a while  ....
Most likely because not a single post you made in this thread has added any value to the topic... You remind of a drunk person in a bar who interrupts discussions with random babble about the world going nowhere. IOW: If you have a problem with a thread, report it to the moderators.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2023, 12:21:33 pm by nctnico »
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Re: bench multimeter for someone learning
« Reply #103 on: March 30, 2023, 12:23:16 pm »
one more piece to this kids (he is 19 and looking like this is what he wants to do or at least something in a similar field) puzzle. he was showing me the owon bench meters and i personally have zero experience with them. any thoughts? anything better for the money? he has a nice fluke handheld and wants a bench unit. budget is low but want something thats at least decent. he saw the owon 1041 or the 2041 which i think he likes a bit better being a larger footprint he can stack vs the skinny 1041 as examples but again i have no idea if they are garbage or not. he is learning and will either go off on his own or maybe work for me (if im still around then) once he gets some experience. in the meantime i kind of took him under my wing and am teaching him. he is an excellent student so far and this is something he is highly interested in. he is trying to complete his bench setup and pf course has a budget. any other models to recc. i got him to go for the slightly better oscope in the siglent and that did eat up a bit more then he hoped. i told him use the fluke for now and he mat do that but he really would like a bench unit. should he spend a bit more and if so for what? again i have not bought much new myself personally except soldering stations in the past few years.

as always you guys are awesome and i very much appreciate the help.

Why does he want a bench meter. My understanding is that they are higher resolution, more accurate and very expensive. The question to ask which is a valuable lesson is why does he need such precision? He probably does not need it but thinks: "it is better"
 
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Re: bench multimeter for someone learning
« Reply #104 on: March 30, 2023, 12:29:10 pm »
Why does he want a bench meter. My understanding is that they are higher resolution, more accurate and very expensive.
Your understanding is completely wrong  8) As has been explained a couple of times already a bench meter is about having a mains cord (so never replace batteries or be annoyed by auto shut-off) and not cluttering your bench. If the case is big enough, you can stack a bench DMM as well which allow for more effective use of bench space. The really cheap bench meters start well under 100 euro (new). Decent ones for around 150 euro (new).
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Re: bench multimeter for someone learning
« Reply #105 on: March 30, 2023, 12:33:48 pm »
Your understanding is completely wrong  8) As has been explained a couple of times already a bench meter is about having a mains cord (so never replace batteries or be annoyed by auto shut-off)

Yep.

And this raises questions:
a) Why handhelds have to beep annoyingly when they're about to power off, then again when they do it.
b) Why they can't wake up easily after they've done it? Normally you have to turn the dial or something intrusive - why can't I just press one of the buttons?

 

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Re: bench multimeter for someone learning
« Reply #106 on: March 30, 2023, 12:41:27 pm »
Your understanding is completely wrong  8) As has been explained a couple of times already a bench meter is about having a mains cord (so never replace batteries or be annoyed by auto shut-off)

Yep.

And this raises questions:
a) Why handhelds have to beep annoyingly when they're about to power off, then again when they do it.
b) Why they can't wake up easily after they've done it? Normally you have to turn the dial or something intrusive - why can't I just press one of the buttons?

This one wakes up by pressing any button - UNI-T UT17B Pro.

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Re: bench multimeter for someone learning
« Reply #107 on: March 30, 2023, 02:48:51 pm »
This raises questions:
a) Why handhelds have to beep annoyingly when they're about to power off, then again when they do it.
b) Why they can't wake up easily after they've done it? Normally you have to turn the dial or something intrusive - why can't I just press one of the buttons?

This one wakes up by pressing any button - UNI-T UT17B Pro.

Yes, there's meters that can do it. My Brymen BM857 goes to sleep silently then wakes up when I press a button.

Of all the meters I own though, it might be the only one.

Maybe this needs a poll.  :popcorn:
 

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Re: bench multimeter for someone learning
« Reply #108 on: March 30, 2023, 07:59:47 pm »
one more piece to this kids (he is 19 and looking like this is what he wants to do or at least something in a similar field) puzzle. he was showing me the owon bench meters and i personally have zero experience with them. any thoughts? anything better for the money? he has a nice fluke handheld and wants a bench unit. budget is low but want something thats at least decent. he saw the owon 1041 or the 2041 which i think he likes a bit better being a larger footprint he can stack vs the skinny 1041 as examples but again i have no idea if they are garbage or not. he is learning and will either go off on his own or maybe work for me (if im still around then) once he gets some experience. in the meantime i kind of took him under my wing and am teaching him. he is an excellent student so far and this is something he is highly interested in. he is trying to complete his bench setup and pf course has a budget. any other models to recc. i got him to go for the slightly better oscope in the siglent and that did eat up a bit more then he hoped. i told him use the fluke for now and he mat do that but he really would like a bench unit. should he spend a bit more and if so for what? again i have not bought much new myself personally except soldering stations in the past few years.

as always you guys are awesome and i very much appreciate the help.

Why does he want a bench meter. My understanding is that they are higher resolution, more accurate and very expensive. The question to ask which is a valuable lesson is why does he need such precision? He probably does not need it but thinks: "it is better"
You should buy one Simon to really see why they are valued by some.
Cost is not a factor vs a HH DMM
Precision, some models certainly but that is where your concerns of cost come in.

Member mastershake has taken a youngster under his wing however he himself has only limited time with us to pass on his knowledge to this protégé so is sounding out latest recommendations from the forum.
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Re: bench multimeter for someone learning
« Reply #109 on: March 31, 2023, 07:16:41 pm »
Yes I guess the form factor is better. If it's not your only meter why not.
 


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