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| EEVblog:
--- Quote from: Fungus on September 17, 2022, 04:00:21 am --- --- Quote from: EEVblog on September 16, 2022, 12:34:18 am ---I don't see it as being a bang-per-buck shootout, then you get into arguments that some $500 model is the winner. So it's more like what is the best most powerful scope you can get under US$1000. --- End quote --- That's easy: The Rigol MSO5000. (which now has hi-res mode!) In a couple of weeks time though? It might be the new 12-bit Rigol HDO1000. :popcorn: --- End quote --- In that case, such a video might be easy! |
| Fungus:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on September 17, 2022, 04:36:10 am ---In that case, such a video might be easy! --- End quote --- Does this shootout allow hacking? If not, the MSO5000 in this price range only has 70MHz bandwidth. How will that be scored? It wins on everything else though - sample rate, memory size, built-in AWG, screen size, separate channel controls, touch screen, etc. |
| pcprogrammer:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on September 16, 2022, 12:34:18 am ---I don't see it as being a bang-per-buck shootout, then you get into arguments that some $500 model is the winner. So it's more like what is the best most powerful scope you can get under US$1000. --- End quote --- A problem I see here is what defines "the most powerful". Does that mean inclusion of protocol decoding, frequency counter, fft, etc. Or is it the bandwidth and sample rate that defines it. Then there is screen size, user interface and whatever you can think of. It might also differ from person to person what they actually need for their jobs at hand. For me a proper comparison between the different models over different use cases in a similar price bracket would be more interesting then an overall shoutout on a wide price range under 1000 USD. Lets say scopes in the lowest price bracket <300USD like the FNIRSI 1014D, Hantek DSO2D15, OWON SDS1102. Then the price bracket of >300USD to <700USD like GW Instek GDS-1202B, Rigol DS2202A, Siglent SDS2202X-E, Hantek MPO6004D, Micsig STO1152C. And at last the price bracket of >700USD up to 1000USD like Keysight DSOX1102A, GW Instek GDS-1104B, Micsig STO2202C, Owon XDS3104AE, Siglent SDS1204X-E, Rohde & Schwarz RTC1002EDU, Rigol MSO5074. Just a bit random lists in three brackets, because there are many more to choose from, and might need a bit of matching between parameters like bandwidth and sample rate. The number of channels is, in my opinion, less important, because most vendors have models with either 2 or 4 channels based on the same scope engine. So for a basic comparison of features not of interest. For the all the scopes it is important to know the actual limitations that the specifications don't show, because they do lie about them, at least FNIRSI does :-DD |
| tautech:
--- Quote from: pcprogrammer on September 17, 2022, 06:19:19 am --- --- Quote from: EEVblog on September 16, 2022, 12:34:18 am ---I don't see it as being a bang-per-buck shootout, then you get into arguments that some $500 model is the winner. So it's more like what is the best most powerful scope you can get under US$1000. --- End quote --- A problem I see here is what defines "the most powerful". Does that mean inclusion of protocol decoding, frequency counter, fft, etc. Or is it the bandwidth and sample rate that defines it. Then there is screen size, user interface and whatever you can think of. It might also differ from person to person what they actually need for their jobs at hand. --- End quote --- Maybe Dave means most capable of which to be so as you point out must have many features compared with the competition. Does Dave weight each feature to have an overall winner by score or do we leave it to his judgement which he considers best but if we're following his scope usage over the last year or 2 we already know his favorite so should he to be properly fair exclude it from the preliminary rounds and only put it against the leader of the rest of the pack ? --- Quote ---For me a proper comparison between the different models over different use cases in a similar price bracket would be more interesting then an overall shoutout on a wide price range under 1000 USD. Lets say scopes in the lowest price bracket <300USD like the FNIRSI 1014D, Hantek DSO2D15, OWON SDS1102. Then the price bracket of >300USD to <700USD like GW Instek GDS-1202B, Rigol DS2202A, Siglent SDS2202X-E, Hantek MPO6004D, Micsig STO1152C. --- End quote --- ^ Ya missed SDS1202X-E, SDS1104X-E and SDS1104X-U Dunno about Dave and others but IMO tablets need be in their own class just as HH portables. --- Quote ---And at last the price bracket of >700USD up to 1000USD like Keysight DSOX1102A, GW Instek GDS-1104B, Micsig STO2202C, Owon XDS3104AE, Siglent SDS1204X-E, Rohde & Schwarz RTC1002EDU, Rigol MSO5074. --- End quote --- Ya missed SDS2352X-E. |
| pcprogrammer:
As stated here --- Quote from: pcprogrammer on September 17, 2022, 06:19:19 am ---Just a bit random lists in three brackets, because there are many more to choose from, and might need a bit of matching between parameters like bandwidth and sample rate. The number of channels is, in my opinion, less important, because most vendors have models with either 2 or 4 channels based on the same scope engine. So for a basic comparison of features not of interest. --- End quote --- Random picked them and these lists will also miss several items of the competitors to your brand >:D |
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