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Best handheld dmm, at any price?

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coromonadalix:
I have the gossen 28 and 29,  they are my top end meters, but have a slow refresh speed  maybe 2-2.5 sec,  i wish they could be faster, Their latest series are not appealing for me
Complaint : They are very expensive to be calibrated, they cost more than my 34401a  lolll,    and yes no parts, no schematics ... nada   EOL

And these 2 pups with their rs232 and usb interface costed me  lots of cash, and i mean a lot ... If i would do it again ............ NO


Hypotically second     Would be a Metrix 3292-3293    100,000 count,  wich is very costly in Canada, but i hate so much the probes location

Third                        My most favorites are the Fluke 189,  totally hated the 289 ( slow and very bulky)

Fourth :                    All other 50,000, 60,000 counts dmm,   Brymen, Amprobe, Greenlee   etc ..... Keysight, Hioki   etc ....  Mostly availability is the key factor ....


To sum it up
My guideline now is :  Fuses accessibility and calibration costs vs  reliability /  reputation / stability  etc ... you get some surprises


And sorry  the EEvblog meters  for me are a no go,  sure they have their quirks, and do receive upgrades but .... nah



And the list :  https://lygte-info.dk/info/DMMHigh-end%20UK.html

Is it fair :  NO

KrzysztofB:

--- Quote from: coromonadalix on December 22, 2022, 09:17:55 am ---Third                        My most favorites are the Fluke 189,  totally hated the 289 ( slow and very bulky)

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100% agree...
289 is bleh....
189 love it... and easy to implement bluetooth module

HKJ:

--- Quote from: coromonadalix on December 22, 2022, 09:17:55 am ---And the list :  https://lygte-info.dk/info/DMMHigh-end%20UK.html

Is it fair :  NO

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What do you mean by "NO", the list shows the meters, list their functions, but do not rate them.

coromonadalix:
They put  somme Appa clones  or vice versa  rebranded  loll "cough" meters   loll

The 121gw is an unfinished meter, sorry  with all it's goodness it's kinda good  but, there was hardware errors (some fixed) and fw quircks, better hope with the 786,

Sure it's getting better as i said,   but  not for me  i dont want to be a guinea pig

But i would go with the 869 or the 789 models, but they wiggle a bit on the bench,  the 859s  is better   loll

And  i hate some meter who doesn't start in voltage right after the OFF position,  it could be desastrous if your probes where connected to something like a battery or a power source,  yeah   some tech does that  loll  me too (not the auto power off)


The 87V series are good BUT,  i hate the fact they start in AC mode instead of DC, had a few at my job and tossed them away, i love older series without this annoying function, BUT it is safer if you do some mistakes  loll

85 and 87 series III where the best,  but as i said   intense usage has it's quirks with them too,  the dial contacts have to be cleaned and lubbed.

I had some meter beeping for nothing  loll, and the power off sometimes was not totally off   lolll  some ghosts in them  loll

Thats why an handheld DMM is easily replaced by a bench model,  i have 3x venerable 34401a, and slowly im replacing them / sell them  to end with an 34410a with a brand new VFD. That's another story

With intense usages your taste will differ,  i take tons of voltages measurements,  and some of theses meter get annoying to use (auto range speed, and the time they take to display the value) ,  really depend of the usage, i had to purchase  old era tds 2000 "B"series of scope with their autorange modes, a real time saviour in my case, and hard to beat.


The Gossens are a special niche,  you have the auto mode who is marvelous,  auto AC-DC-Ohms ... Wow never had any problems with that function,  display speed kill the fun  loll

I think Fluke tried to copy that on some meters, i was not impressed, but worked okay,  now some cheap brands whant to copy this  loll

The esoteric M30S is one of a kind ....

Once again,  what is best / good at this and that  really depend of your "real needs"   not having a Mercedes toy to play with  loll     

I too was influenced a bit  when i've bought the "old" gossens, in the end i have paid more than a 7.5 digit meter  loll    I total 3 Gossens 2x 28 and 1x 29,  not to rant,  i do regret the purchase as i said, because of the time spent, cash spent, calibrations costs,  and mostly import duties fees who spoil the fun 


And threads like this  will never end,   because each person has different needs and tastes

Fungus:
If I had to choose between my  Fluke 187 and my Brymen BM857 I think I'd keep the Brymen.

The Brymen has a much more contrasty display and a better beeper. The Fluke feels a but clunky and always seems to have too many positions on the range switch.

The Fluke is better for AC (dual display) but I don't use that very often. It also has more options for setting things like auto-power-off.

Apart from that they're very similar for speed, accuracy, etc.

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