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| Fungus:
--- Quote from: BillyO on December 25, 2022, 02:57:47 am ---I do get it when people say Fluke have a proven track record over and above all the specs and certifications. It's very true. However, if good alternatives (like Brymen) never get a fair chance to develop that proven track record, then we'll be basically stuck with a monopoly. --- End quote --- Yep, and sadly in the USA that's probably never going to happen because Brymen seem have an exclusive deal with Greenlee and Greenlee sell them very overpriced and mixed with other brands. They'll never get the sort of brand recognition that way. --- Quote from: H713 on December 25, 2022, 07:11:04 am ---The 187 and 189 are still the best meters Fluke ever made, in my opinion, but they're long gone. --- End quote --- The 187 was originally sold as the 87 IV but the backlash was huge and Fluke quickly went backwards with the 87 V. People don't want change. Fluke is basically stuck making the 87 V forever (although that's not a problem for Fluke - their profit margins must be huge on it). --- Quote from: H713 on December 25, 2022, 07:11:04 am ---I'm just disappointed that Fluke doesn't have something between the 87 V and the 289. --- End quote --- They have no motivation whatsoever to do that, even though they could make several improvements to the 87V which wouldn't change the basic functionality in any way. --- Quote from: H713 on December 25, 2022, 07:11:04 am ---Furthermore, some of the Fluke meters have what can only be described as "pathetic" display contrast - the 289 is the worst offender here, and honestly, the 189 isn't great either - compared to the Brymen meters I've used (the BM786 and the BM235), it's pretty sad. --- End quote --- Yep. My 187 display is terrible compared to my Brymen. Even free DT830 "Harbor Freight" meters have better displays. Sure, they have less screen segments and less mutliplexing but if Brymen can make a decent display there's no reason Fluke can't at the prices they charge. |
| nightfire:
One other question that should also be asked before going into wild guesses which DMM is better than any Fluke: What does the OP and his technicians really need? From my own experience (last employer datacenter) there are situations where you simply want to get a reading quickly and move on without too much hassle fiddling with your gear. And here I have to admit that the usage of any Fluke DMM from basic up to the 87 series is quite straightforward and intuitive. (289 etc. really do not count as simple DMMs) Measurement-wise, what do they require in precision and measuring modes? And not unimportant: calibration services including turnaround time until the multimeter is useable by the technician again. |
| Fungus:
Bottom line: Get a couple of BM869s and BM859s and give them to some of the most "influential" engineers at the company so they can use the dual displays, etc. Sell them on the CAT IV 1000V rating and make sure other people know they can trade in their Flukes if they want to. See if you get a trickle down effect inside the company. For repairs I probably wouldn't make much effort. They're a third of the price so just have a supply of new ones. I really don;t think they're going to fail anyway. I'm sure calibration is a solvable problem, too. Give Welectron a call and see if you can work something out. If you calibrate meters in batches then shipping will be the least of it. |
| Monkeh:
--- Quote from: BeBuLamar on December 25, 2022, 12:22:53 pm ---But going away from Fluke I wouldn't want to go cheap but rather others that cost the same or more --- End quote --- Because again you're basing your decisions on name and cost, not an evaluation of the equipment. |
| Fungus:
--- Quote from: nightfire on December 25, 2022, 12:49:12 pm ---From my own experience (last employer datacenter) there are situations where you simply want to get a reading quickly and move on without too much hassle fiddling with your gear. And here I have to admit that the usage of any Fluke DMM from basic up to the 87 series is quite straightforward and intuitive. --- End quote --- The one possible advantage of Fluke over Brymen in the field is that Brymens remember their mode when you switch them off, eg. if you were in DC current mode when you switched it off then it will power on in DC mode. A Fluke 87V will always power on in AC mode. This can be good or bad depending on how you look at it: If you're grabbing a random meter from a toolbox then powering on in a known mode means you can rely on muscle memory instead of having to look at the display to see what mode it's in. OTOH having AC mode as the default would annoy the hell out of me on the workbench. |
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