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Best Oscilloscope under $300?
Aldo22:
@tatel: You brought the Zeeweii into this topic, not me. ;)
2N3055:
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--- Quote from: nctnico on February 23, 2024, 03:28:49 pm ---A couple of years ago I was stupid enough to spend 2500 euro on a Siglent scope which ended up in the trash. A useless POS and the (authorised!) Siglent distributor didn't want to take it back.
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Oops! :phew:
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Oops indeed, Nico's memory cells are in failure mode, it was 10 years ago ! !
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And Siglent still can't get decode to work reliably between firmware updates... Technical support doesn't even know the use case for protocol decoding and gives an utter BS answer. But also more recently Siglent gear I thought was good enough, failed miserably for basic functionality.
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How about Rigol releasing nonfunctional scope that violates Nyquist? How about Keysight last year making, putting into documentation, and starting to sell option to decode USB2 on MSOX3000T just to realize that scope has FPGA that does not support it, only after customers started complaining why it does not work?
Or R&S releasing MXO4 that has actual zone trigger button but it is not implemented. And not yet, after few months. On 24k scope.
Did you mention that Keysight and AIM TTi AWG also did not not support your specific requirements.
Do you mention that also they should not buy Keysight scopes because you don't like them.
And that (expensive) Tektronix AWG you bought in the end also have bugs....
Just for the sake of completeness, you know.. Unbiased info..
P.S. I have equipment from Rigol, Siglent, Keysight and AIM-TTi. They all work well for what they are... As for fixing bugs, worst is Rigol, but they also eventually get it to functional product. Just much slower than others, so just don't buy it first year after release....
And even Keysight has some minor bugs 8 years after release, one of which I found and was point blank said they won't fix it because they couldn't care less, because it is obscure and hard to replicate...
nctnico:
--- Quote from: 2N3055 on February 23, 2024, 08:34:21 pm ---Did you mention that Keysight and AIM TTi AWG also did not not support your specific requirements.
And that (expensive) Tektronix AWG you bought in the end also have bugs....
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And the Siglent cheering crowd has entered the building :scared: Maybe it is time to tell how much are they paying you (either in money or discounts)?
You are wrong in many ways. To name a few: I didn't test the Keysight AWG so I don't know, the AIM TTi AWG just didn't meet specifications so simply wasn't suitable and the Tektronix AWG doesn't have bugs that I know off. What Shahiar claimed was a bug ended up being operator error. And I never wrote I don't like Keysight scopes; it is just that their memory is rather short for doing embedded development so may not be ideal for that purpose. At least get your facts straight. Pointing out faults in other products is a rather dumb diversion tactic to hide the fact the manufacturer you like so much keeps dropping the ball in so many stupid ways it isn't even funny. Get your own house in order before making comments towards others.
Martin72:
--- Quote ---And the Siglent cheering crowd has entered the building
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And who was it before that?
People who had a bad experience ages ago and have been living off it ever since...
Have you broadened your horizons in the meantime and borrowed an SDS5000X, an SDS2000Xplus, an SDS2000X HD or even a 6000 or 7000 for testing?
The earth has continued to turn since your experience, I know, sometimes you don't feel that way.
Get the devices from today to test so that you can have your say, otherwise it sounds like a long-playing record that always jumps back and forth in the same place.
Instead, you accuse others of being paid cheerleaders.
Think about what kind of style that is.
Sorry, but I think you are actually a competent, smart person.
Posts like this from you are completely irritating.
nctnico:
--- Quote from: Martin72 on February 24, 2024, 12:11:07 am ---
--- Quote ---And the Siglent cheering crowd has entered the building
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And who was it before that?
People who had a bad experience ages ago and have been living off it ever since...
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Not years ago and not one bad experience. If only it was 1 bad, isolated experience... And I'm not the only one. Just read Siglent's response to a serious problem:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-1202x-e-serial-decoding-not-working/msg5180694/#msg5180694
They don't even know the real world use case! That is the most alarming part. But then the apologists get in and claim the equipment is too cheap to make it work as it should. Tell me I'm wrong to call that out?
I have had much better experiences with tech support from Tektronix and Keysight. I even went as far asking Keysight very specific questions about the long term reliability of one of their products. Their engineers went down to the component level in order to answer that question. And I'm not a big customer at all (far from it). Not saying Keysight never goes wrong, but they know their stuff and make it right.
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