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| balnazzar:
--- Quote from: mawyatt on November 09, 2022, 02:04:27 pm --- --- Quote from: pdenisowski on November 09, 2022, 11:07:05 am --- --- Quote from: nctnico on November 08, 2022, 02:37:47 pm ---I wouldn't be so quick to label features as 'toys' or 'educational'. For example: having digital inputs on DSOs (=MSO) has helped to kill the market for logic analysers even though an MSO is a far cry from a real logic analyser --- End quote --- That's putting it mildly :) The T&M instrument company I previously worked for sold lots of very large and very expensive logic analyzers back in the day, and the stand-along logic analyzer market seems to have almost completely disappeared. --- End quote --- We also found this built-in MSO LA feature quite useful recently when debugging a 128 Independent Channel +-100V 16 bit AWG for use with a new Phased Array Technology. We needed to "See" the relative timing between digital and analog channels and the built-in LA proved highly useful. Best, --- End quote --- Mh, one could object that you don't need a MSO for that. You could trigger the LA with the scope trig out (or vice versa). |
| mawyatt:
--- Quote from: balnazzar on November 09, 2022, 05:28:11 pm --- Mh, one could object that you don't need a MSO for that. You could trigger the LA with the scope trig out (or vice versa). --- End quote --- Missing the point, having everything required within a single instrument like an MSO is very advantageous, just like with the Bode Function, and especially true with limited bench top space!! Best, |
| balnazzar:
--- Quote from: mawyatt on November 09, 2022, 05:40:39 pm --- --- Quote from: balnazzar on November 09, 2022, 05:28:11 pm --- Mh, one could object that you don't need a MSO for that. You could trigger the LA with the scope trig out (or vice versa). --- End quote --- Missing the point, having everything required within a single instrument like an MSO is very advantageous, just like with the Bode Function, and especially true with limited bench top space!! Best, --- End quote --- I share your view, I just bought a MSO's logic probe. Wanted to hear the counterbell though! |
| mawyatt:
Great DIY Logic Probe by Thomas here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/diy-logic-analyzer-probe-and-pods-for-siglent-scopes/ We made one (check above thread) and it works well for our needs. Delinquent in "tuning" it for maximum performance tho ??? Best, |
| Someone:
--- Quote from: nctnico on November 09, 2022, 12:20:54 pm ---@Someone: feel free to pitch ideas on what you think would be a valid test. --- End quote --- Something with all the information that I already asked for? You two are just shovelling promotion into the forum, people can not reproduce or learn anything from it. But good news! if they buy XXXXX product of the month they can do it too without having to lift a finger. Despite that other equipment can do the same thing just fine (or better). --- Quote from: mawyatt on November 09, 2022, 01:53:47 pm ---So maybe Siglent is "listening" and will open the "Black Box" and/or allow more user parameter adjustments!! --- End quote --- That's it, you post a generic topic and then push the particular upsides of the Siglent, no possible comparison, no discussion. This would be far better titled... Todays experiment with Siglent bode plot, adding synthetic noise. We get it, you like the built in Siglent app and you find uses for it. But it pushes you to do that in very specific ways and is slow. You haven't pushed its limits or shown how/why/where it fails, so this smells like fanboy/boostering/astroturfing. |
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