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starfry:
Hello can someone with experience of ordering from Welectron into the UK (in the last year since brexit and the rules changed) please share their experience ?

I am considering ordering a Brymen meter and accessories from them. With the EEV discount all the items total €129.12, note they don't charge the 19% VAT when shipping to the UK (confirmed with them by email and also by working through their checkout page). Shipping is free (DHL Parcel, handed over to the local post service in the destination country for delivery). With the current exchange rate that is £112.76 which is below the £135 duty threshold as I understand it.

Re the vat, the gov.uk site says that seller must charge and account for VAT at the point of sale but welectron have said to me they don't do this.

So will this be a clean slam-dunk or will it get stuck for payment of 20% VAT or anything else?

Otherwise I can order from Telonic but the package isn't quite as nice and costs a little more; it's probably easier to go this way for peace of mind.

Anyone done this recently who can comment?


Thanks!

Monkeh:
DHL will charge you the VAT and a fee for paying your own taxes. They'll get around to sending the threatening letter about it at some random point long after you've received the package.

starfry:
It's interesting - according to hmrc, EU businesses are supposed to charge UK vat on consignments valued up to £135. There seems to be no "optional" part to this but welectron clearly don't do it, they told me so. It seems odd to me that hmrc can mandate this when they have no jurisdiction over the seller. I don't know if them not doing it will cause customs issues.

The other thing that I don't understand is the "handed over to the local post service in the destination country for delivery" part - I can't see any service on DHL like that so perhaps that doesn't happen in reality. I was wondering if DHL deliver or Royal Mail - and, if Royal Mail, then who does the customs? Royal Mail stick their own fee on top but I know if DHL have a fee (from their web site it would appear not).

The welectron package is nicer than the Telonic one. If I know I'm just going to get charged the 20% tax that's cool.

Fungus:
If DHL can possibly charge you a fee, they WILL charge you a fee. It's 100% guaranteed.

I wouldn't risk it if DHL is anywhere in the loop.

unknownparticle:
I've had EU sellers just chuck the package in the post, no declaration, nothing and it arrives no problem, no fees. It's upto the individual seller how they do this obviously but I don't see what the UK customs can do about it if they just ignore their stupid bl00dy rules!!

The process the UK revenue & customs want global sellers to adopt is, the seller must register for a UK VAT account to sell to the UK and the MINIMUM order value must be £135!!!  Why TF they impose a minimum value is beyond me, but that's the way it is.  I first encountered this with a US seller whose system rejected my online order when it detected a UK destination. I didn't know about all this b0ll0x at the time so I emailed to ask why my order was rejected, which is when they told me about the issue. They said they now don't ship to the UK as the cost of administering a UK VAT account just wasn't worth the hassle.  What an utter cluster fcuk!!  I'm a Brexiteer and this has annoyed me intensely!!  This UK government claiming to be all for international business then coming up with this utter drivel!!

However, as I mentioned some sellers are sticking up the royal salute to it and just sending the goods!!

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