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Offline Gazmon

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Cheapest touchscreen Oscillorscope?
« on: March 09, 2019, 05:56:25 pm »
Hi all,


Any info on whats available in touchscreen oscillorscope format, at realistic prices

appreciate there not cheap

Cheers

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Re: Cheapest touchscreen Oscillorscope?
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2019, 06:09:33 pm »
"Cheapest" is usually not the most sensible thing to look for.
Anyway, I would think that could be an Owon XDS3102A or something in that range.
I don't think though that anybody would recommend getting one.
Better consider at least a Rigol MSO5000.
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Re: Cheapest touchscreen Oscillorscope?
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2019, 06:18:08 pm »
re-phrase...

Cheapest quality scope
 

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Re: Cheapest touchscreen Oscillorscope?
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2019, 06:41:13 pm »
Micsig TO1000 but that is fully touchscreen with no physical knobs. They've made a STO1000 which is a combination touchscreen + physical controls but you need to order it from China.
 

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Re: Cheapest touchscreen Oscillorscope?
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2019, 06:45:28 pm »
re-phrase...

Cheapest quality scope

Rigol MSO5000.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/new-rigol-scope/

(nb. It's had new firmware since Dave recorded that and the base $909 model is easily unlockable to enable 350MHz bandwidth and everything else....)
« Last Edit: March 09, 2019, 06:48:46 pm by Fungus »
 

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Re: Cheapest touchscreen Oscillorscope?
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2019, 06:50:07 pm »
re-phrase...

Cheapest quality scope

Check the Rigol clearance sale for your area. That's probably the cheapest you'll find. Also worth calling up the local distributors of the big ones (i.e. Keysight) to ask if they have any demonstration units that they're selling. Also, sign-up for the Keysight Wave event, you never know if you get lucky and win one.  ;D
 

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Re: Cheapest touchscreen Oscillorscope?
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2019, 06:54:39 pm »
re-phrase...

Cheapest quality scope

Rigol MSO5000.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/new-rigol-scope/

looks good

(nb. It's had new firmware since Dave recorded that and the base $909 model is easily unlockable to enable 350MHz bandwidth and everything else....)


yep looks realk good
 

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Re: Cheapest touchscreen Oscillorscope?
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2019, 06:55:28 pm »
Gazmon: What is your budget here? A realistic price means a lot of different things to different people. If you can afford it then the Rigol MSO5000 looks to be a good option.

Also worth calling up the local distributors of the big ones (i.e. Keysight) to ask if they have any demonstration units that they're selling.
That doesn't usually work in the UK for some reason. My experience is that the distributors will knock a whole 5% off and then be puzzled as to why nobody is rushing to buy it.
 

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Re: Cheapest touchscreen Oscillorscope?
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2019, 06:56:25 pm »
up to £950 GBP

but like to save 100 notes if poss
 

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Re: Cheapest touchscreen Oscillorscope?
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2019, 07:06:12 pm »
It'll come in just under or slightly exceed your budget depending on if you buy from Europe or UK but the Rigol MSO5074 because its 4 channels. The 2 channel MSO5072 is £100 cheaper but only 2 channels can be limiting. Ignore this. MSO5072 can be software modded for 4 channels and expanded bandwidth.

Siglent probably has something similar but I don't know what model it is.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2019, 07:46:40 pm by tsman »
 

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Re: Cheapest touchscreen Oscillorscope?
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2019, 07:07:50 pm »
Micsig TO1000 but that is fully touchscreen with no physical knobs. They've made a STO1000 which is a combination touchscreen + physical controls but you need to order it from China.
AFAIK this is the cheapest option.
At this moment I wouldn't go for the Rigol MSO5000. Too many bugs and shortcomings where OTOH the MicSig TO1000 has mature firmware which works as advertised.
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Re: Cheapest touchscreen Oscillorscope?
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2019, 07:13:50 pm »
Appreciate the feedback

I’m looking for a bench type tbh tho
 

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Re: Cheapest touchscreen Oscillorscope?
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2019, 07:17:43 pm »
The question is, are you looking for a portable or a desktop? For desktop, definitely don't get a MicSig. It's less capable (no active probe I/F, which is very important in my daily works), and it's generally less sold and used and you'll have less community support.

If you need a portable, then MicSig is probably the best implemented scope tablet out there.

FYI, I have a touch desktop scope, and I rarely use its touch screen. Knobs and buttons work better for me.
 

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Re: Cheapest touchscreen Oscillorscope?
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2019, 07:34:09 pm »
It'll come in just under or slightly exceed your budget depending on if you buy from Europe or UK but the Rigol MSO5074 because its 4 channels. The 2 channel MSO5072 is £100 cheaper but only 2 channels can be limiting.

The other two channels can be enabled just by copying a file to a USB stick and inserting it into the 'scope.
 

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Re: Cheapest touchscreen Oscillorscope?
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2019, 07:45:52 pm »
It'll come in just under or slightly exceed your budget depending on if you buy from Europe or UK but the Rigol MSO5074 because its 4 channels. The 2 channel MSO5072 is £100 cheaper but only 2 channels can be limiting.

The other two channels can be enabled just by copying a file to a USB stick and inserting it into the 'scope.
Ohh. For some reason I thought they were missing entirely! In that case then yeah, pick the MSO5072.
 

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Re: Cheapest touchscreen Oscillorscope?
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2019, 07:51:14 pm »
The price of two 350MHz probes is more than difference in price of 2ch vs.4ch... That is why it makes sense to go with 4ch version..
« Last Edit: March 09, 2019, 09:16:42 pm by 2N3055 »
 

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Re: Cheapest touchscreen Oscillorscope?
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2019, 09:14:42 pm »
Siglent probably has something similar but I don't know what model it is.
Nothing in the budget range.
SDS5032X and 5034X starting ~$3k and models to 1GHz.
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Re: Cheapest touchscreen Oscillorscope?
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2019, 09:43:01 pm »
TO1104 4-channel 10MHz with battery and full options is around $500
 

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Re: Cheapest touchscreen Oscillorscope?
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2019, 09:45:05 pm »
Also worth calling up the local distributors of the big ones (i.e. Keysight) to ask if they have any demonstration units that they're selling.
That doesn't usually work in the UK for some reason. My experience is that the distributors will knock a whole 5% off and then be puzzled as to why nobody is rushing to buy it.
Interesting, I suppose it might depend on the policy of the distributor. I bought my DSOX2012A at +/- 850 EUR from the Belgian distributor (AcalBFI) a few years ago Don't remember what the listing price was, but they're currently on Farnell and RS for 1536 EUR.

And while it doesn't have touch, the Rigol clearance sale currently has a DS4024E 4 channel 200 MHz scope with 2 year warranty listed for 1195 EUR.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2019, 10:43:30 pm by HalFET »
 

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Re: Cheapest touchscreen Oscillorscope?
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2019, 11:03:20 pm »
Appreciate the feedback

I’m looking for a bench type tbh tho
The MicSig TO1000 is perfectly useable as a bench oscilloscope. Quite a few forum members have one.

However: what is your budget?
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Re: Cheapest touchscreen Oscillorscope?
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2019, 07:18:41 pm »
"Cheapest" is usually not the most sensible thing to look for.
Anyway, I would think that could be an Owon XDS3102A or something in that range.
I don't think though that anybody would recommend getting one.
Better consider at least a Rigol MSO5000.

I've been looking for information on the Owon XDS310xA and would love to hear your thoughts on it since you said no one would recommend getting one. Thanks!
 

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Re: Cheapest touchscreen Oscillorscope?
« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2019, 06:14:40 am »
For desktop, definitely don't get a MicSig. It's less capable (no active probe I/F, which is very important in my daily works)

I don't know what is I/F, but I don't see what micsig is really missing from "desktop" oscilloscopes in the same price range. A good active probe costs more than this small device. Don't compare it with MSOX3054A ;).

I use it as a desktop oscilloscope and I'm quite happy about it. It's not ideal, the screen is glossy, the stand is not adjustable, the fan is a bit more loud than it should, UI is a bit slow (still faster than R&S!), but it does the job.
 
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Re: Cheapest touchscreen Oscillorscope?
« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2019, 07:56:14 am »
I don't know what is I/F, but I don't see what micsig is really missing from "desktop" oscilloscopes in the same price range. A good active probe costs more than this small device. Don't compare it with MSOX3054A ;).

I use it as a desktop oscilloscope and I'm quite happy about it. It's not ideal, the screen is glossy, the stand is not adjustable, the fan is a bit more loud than it should, UI is a bit slow (still faster than R&S!), but it does the job.

Interface. I use active probes very often for measuring current and delicate signals (implies input capacitance is detrimental).
I have a current clamp, a HV differential probe, and a FET input probe. All I use for my high power or high speed designs.
 

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Re: Cheapest touchscreen Oscillorscope?
« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2019, 08:36:18 am »
Micsig is useable as a bench scope, certainly for hobbyist users.
If the OP is interested in active probes (which I doubt) the most economical option for quality probes is to buy used Tekprobe kit and a Tekprobe power supply which allows you to use any scope.
Or make you own Tekprobe adapter:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/tektronix-tekprobe-power-supply-for-agilent-rigol-and-other-oscilloscopes/
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/circuit-studio/example-project-tektronix-tekprobe-adapterbreakout/
 


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