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Products => Test Equipment => Topic started by: PerranOak on August 04, 2021, 10:42:04 am

Title: Cheapo logic analyser
Post by: PerranOak on August 04, 2021, 10:42:04 am
I’d a logic analyser but don’t want to pay loads for it!  ;D
I guess my best option is a PC based one?
Does anyone have a recommendation for a real tight-wad? (Other than: “put your hand in your pocket you cheap@rse”)
Cheers.
Title: Re: Cheapo logic analyser
Post by: Fungus on August 04, 2021, 10:53:59 am
What bandwidth?
Title: Re: Cheapo logic analyser
Post by: tggzzz on August 04, 2021, 11:03:54 am
You need to think about and tell us:
and anything else so that we aren't playing "20 questions" :)
Title: Re: Cheapo logic analyser
Post by: PaulAm on August 04, 2021, 01:48:29 pm
If you can deal with the limitations you won't get anything cheaper than a Sileae clone.  You can get an 8 bit version for under $10 USD.  They work reasonably well with Sigrok.

More lines, higher bandwidth, etc and the prices go up.
Title: Re: Cheapo logic analyser
Post by: PerranOak on August 07, 2021, 02:08:21 pm
Right. You've got me now.

I would use it to decode I2C, UART and such on simple PIC projects (mostly 8-bit, I guess) and maybe the odd USB bit of USB. There will not be any really fast stuff (except USB) so something pretty Micky-Mouse will do.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Cheapo logic analyser
Post by: CJay on August 07, 2021, 02:31:33 pm
Cheap as chips Cypress clone of the Saleae with Sigrok has done me proud when I've debugged I2C & slow (ish) SPI.

Sigrok can be a bit flakey, so can the Cypress clone thing but for under a tenner I have absolutely zero grounds to complain, the messing about cost me far less than a 'proper' LA and the combo got me out of a hole on more than a few occasions.

For that sort of money and most of your use case, it's got to be worth a go.

You're going to need to shift some real money to deal with native USB
Title: Re: Cheapo logic analyser
Post by: Fungus on August 07, 2021, 04:10:40 pm
something pretty Micky-Mouse will do.

...apart from the "USB" part, which needs several GHz of bandwidth.
Title: Re: Cheapo logic analyser
Post by: tggzzz on August 07, 2021, 05:10:56 pm
something pretty Micky-Mouse will do.

...apart from the "USB" part, which needs several GHz of bandwidth.

... raises non-trivial probing problems, and probably needs protocol decoding and packet level decodes.
Title: Re: Cheapo logic analyser
Post by: DavidAlfa on August 07, 2021, 05:46:19 pm
Search "24 mhz logic analyzer" in aliexpress/ebay/etc.
For $6 you get 8-ch 24MHz sampling rate, no capture depth limits.
Saleae logic analyzer software is superb, I actually find it better than sigrok, althought it doesn't support so many protocols.
Title: Re: Cheapo logic analyser
Post by: alm on August 07, 2021, 07:31:07 pm
Saleae logic analyzer software is superb, I actually find it better than sigrok, althought it doesn't support so many protocols.

No surprise it's better, given that the Saleae software is commercial and only licensed to be used with their hardware. But since they didn't include any copy protection in their first generation of hardware, you'll be able to use their software with the cheap 'clones' as long as you ignore their license until they stop supporting their old hardware.
Title: Re: Cheapo logic analyser
Post by: DavidAlfa on August 07, 2021, 08:04:11 pm
I don't use it for working or anything like that. Purely for hobby use,  fiddling around or learning. So the difference for them would be zero.
Title: Re: Cheapo logic analyser
Post by: PerranOak on August 09, 2021, 05:49:56 pm
Brill, cheers all.

I think I'll leave the USB element for another time.