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BravoV:

--- Quote from: rstofer on October 06, 2020, 10:15:27 pm ---The modern DSO is in an entirely different class in terms of capability.  Single shot mode alone is worth waiting to buy the DSO.  The number of measurements a modern DSO can do is staggering.  They're on a completely different planet.

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Problem is at most scope noobs, they don't even know what a "single shot" is, and it's MAJOR advantages compared to analog scope no matter how super duper cool they are.

The words "single shot" admittedly sound very boring, trivial and less eyes catchy.  ::)

And with this lacking, usually will make a fatal decision unknowingly, that later will haunt the owner after seeing why other people using cheap DSO can see clearly a signal, even at sub Mhz non repetitive signal, which most electronics beginners are dealing with.

To beginners, "single shot" means ... using today's popular new generation's speak  :P .. its like seeing your measured signal in bullet time and "STOP/FREEZE" it.  >:D

And no, you can NOT do that even at the best analog scope ever made on earth.

Fungus:

--- Quote from: BravoV on October 07, 2020, 06:09:30 am ---Problem is most scope noobs, don't even know what "single shot" is, and it's MAJOR advantages compared to analog scope no matter how super duper cool they are.

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Yep. The advantage of a DSO isn't that it's smaller and has a TFT screen. It's that it can record a signal and analyze it.

Analog 'scopes are pretty, for sure, but they're not as useful as a DSO.
BravoV:

--- Quote from: Fungus on October 07, 2020, 06:29:57 am ---
--- Quote from: BravoV on October 07, 2020, 06:09:30 am ---Problem is most scope noobs, don't even know what "single shot" is, and it's MAJOR advantages compared to analog scope no matter how super duper cool they are.

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Yep. The advantage of a DSO isn't that it's smaller and has a TFT screen. It's that it can record a signal and analyze it.

Analog 'scopes are pretty, for sure, but they're not as useful as a DSO.

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Also in the context of screen sizes comparison, popular DSO vs "popular & well known" analog scope.

Here below photo of my Rigol DS1104Z (which has the exact identical physical with DS1054Z) stands on top of my Tektronix 2465B analog (which many considered the best portable analog scope ever made, cmiiw).

Electro Fan:

--- Quote from: BravoV on October 07, 2020, 06:43:38 am ---
--- Quote from: Fungus on October 07, 2020, 06:29:57 am ---
--- Quote from: BravoV on October 07, 2020, 06:09:30 am ---Problem is most scope noobs, don't even know what "single shot" is, and it's MAJOR advantages compared to analog scope no matter how super duper cool they are.

--- End quote ---

Yep. The advantage of a DSO isn't that it's smaller and has a TFT screen. It's that it can record a signal and analyze it.

Analog 'scopes are pretty, for sure, but they're not as useful as a DSO.

--- End quote ---

Also in the context of screen sizes comparison, popular DSO vs "popular & well known" analog scope.

Here below photo of my Rigol DS1104Z (which has the exact identical physical with DS1054Z) stands on top of my Tektronix 2465B analog (which many considered the best portable analog scope ever made, cmiiw).



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That’s a good view.  Might also be instructive to show the same two scopes stacked just like that but from the top down, and from the sides, and from the rear, and also give the weight specs.  I enjoy and occasionally use 3 Tek analog scopes but the 1 DSO gets ~80% of the use.  Portable for a vintage Tek scope and portable for a modern DSO are two different things.
tggzzz:

--- Quote from: BravoV on October 07, 2020, 06:43:38 am ---
--- Quote from: Fungus on October 07, 2020, 06:29:57 am ---
--- Quote from: BravoV on October 07, 2020, 06:09:30 am ---Problem is most scope noobs, don't even know what "single shot" is, and it's MAJOR advantages compared to analog scope no matter how super duper cool they are.

--- End quote ---

Yep. The advantage of a DSO isn't that it's smaller and has a TFT screen. It's that it can record a signal and analyze it.

Analog 'scopes are pretty, for sure, but they're not as useful as a DSO.

--- End quote ---

Also in the context of screen sizes comparison, popular DSO vs "popular & well known" analog scope.

Here below photo of my Rigol DS1104Z (which has the exact identical physical with DS1054Z) stands on top of my Tektronix 2465B analog (which many considered the best portable analog scope ever made, cmiiw).



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Screen size, as shown in your picture, is almost irrelevant.

Far more important are resolution, readability, what is shown on the screen, refresh rates, etc etc.
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