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So absolutely every currently produced meter, including FLUKE, Keysight, Gossen....

Not even Fluke builds 'em like they used to.  :popcorn:

http://www.fluke.com/fluke/inen/digital-multimeters/fluke-27.htm?pid=56055

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"The Fluke 27 combines accurate digital and analog measurement capability with extreme ruggedness and durability. They have cases twice as thick as any other DMM we build. They are totally sealed, waterproof to 3 feet (one meter) of water for one hour, tough enough to withstand contaminants, chemicals, accidental drops and severe electrical overloads.

Designed to meet military specification of MIL-STD-28800 for Style A, Class 2 instruments, the Fluke 27 performs under the extremes of heat, cold, humidity, shock, electromagnetic interference, vibration and downright abuse.

Rugged safety features include extensive overload protection, high energy fuses, fused 10A range, and non-metallic cases and tilt bail. All voltage inputs recover or fail safe under power line surge tests for major feeders. This includes simulated lightning and load switching transient pulses up to 8 kV"

"Simulated lightning"  :D
 

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"features include extensive overload protection, high energy fuses, fused 10A range, and non-metallic cases and tilt bail. All voltage inputs recover or fail safe under power line surge tests for major feeders. This includes simulated lightning and load switching transient pulses up to 8 kV."

yes yes, that's all good and may convince  :clap: the buying department to order 600 of them sight unseen :-DMM :-DMM :-DMM :-DMM :-DMM :-DMM

But will a Fluke 27 meet it's specs at the Joe Smith Proof Lab?   :popcorn:


Skeptical frugal techs would appreciate seeing it deliver the goods in an independent testing environment,
before they hand over their bag of saved coins and birthday/Christmas cash to buy one.

No one needs a big dollar meter that flakes out after some extreme carpet surfing, before going out into a lightning storm to check the RV truck battery  ;D
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Online Fungus

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Quote from: fungus
Fluke 27... tough enough to withstand severe electrical overloads.


will a Fluke 27 meet it's specs at the Joe Smith Proof Lab?   :popcorn:

It would be a good one to test, but ... that's up to joe.

He can be a bit ornery.  :popcorn:

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If the electrical survival specs are similar to an 87V,
and no immediate plan on going swimming with the 87V
or dropping it from 6 meters on to concrete inside an expl0sive environment,

then there is no point in buying a 27, 28-11
or sillycone stuffed EX series (the recalled mega dollar Uni-T lookalikes, lol) 

 

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If the electrical survival specs are similar to an 87V,
then there is no point in buying a 27, 28-11

The key is in the weasel words: "All voltage inputs recover or fail safe"

The Fluke 87 chose to 'fail safe' in Joe's tests, ie. it broke. It's not among the top meters in his tests despite the high CAT rating printed on the front.

(which doesn't make it less safe than the others, just maybe not as robust)
 

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If the electrical survival specs are similar to an 87V,
and no immediate plan on going swimming with the 87V
or dropping it from 6 meters on to concrete inside an expl0sive environment,

then there is no point in buying a 27, 28-11
or sillycone stuffed EX series (the recalled mega dollar Uni-T lookalikes, lol)
Was the 87V ex recalled?? I thought it was just discontinued.
 

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Was the 87V ex recalled?? I thought it was just discontinued.

No recalls on the 87V

http://en-us.fluke.com/customer-service/safety-notices/?tab=archive

 

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He probably meant 28 II Ex..
 
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Yes, it's the Fluke 28-11 EX on the recall list

If you, or rich showoff boss has one   :-DMM  check if it's listed in the knackered batch 
serial number range 20960000 to 22489999, and send the Flukker back and get a new one  :-+

www.productsafety.gov.au/recall/fluke-corporation-fluke-28iiex

How can a meter filled with 87V parts and slimed with Green Lantern goo crack so easy?  :-//

Are many RED meters doomed to be cheap or bad luck (like street hookers) regardless of brand or re-badge ?

You may as well check out the other recall duds too, in case you have one wasting space in your test gear stash,
waiting to bite you one day:   :scared:     www.productsafety.gov.au/site-search/fluke

Thankfully I don't own any red meters to check on that recall site, and can prod around freely  :-/O
without the meter being the prime suspect on a blowout  :-BROKE

 ;D

 
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Re: If Brymen BM869s is cheaper and as good, why people would still buy Fluke?
« Reply #384 on: October 14, 2017, 01:11:01 am »
Almost 30 year old Fluke 87s in good shape routinely go for around $150 US! How much is a "good" used Brymen worth? Fluke's are for people who need a meter, Brymen's are for people who want a meter! Nuff said
 

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Re: If Brymen BM869s is cheaper and as good, why people would still buy Fluke?
« Reply #385 on: October 14, 2017, 02:12:32 am »
How much is a "good" used Brymen worth?
They're not common in the US, as they don't sell under their own name (seen them rebranded under both Greenlee and Extech though, with a nice mark-up of course).

That said however, I found a BM857 on eBay in the US that they're asking $220 OBO (here). The asking price is out of whack though, as you can get a new one from TME for ~$157 + shipping (~$20).  :palm:

As it happens, I've a Brymen BM857a that's 17yrs old (listing is NOT mine as I'm keeping it). And it's fully functional and well within spec.  :-+

For disclosure regarding brand loyalty, I own:
  • Fluke 27FM (forgetting to fix the ACV function as it's easier to grab a different meter :-[)
  • GW Instek GDM 8251A
  • Agilent U1252B
  • Uni-T UT139C
  • CenTech DT830 (Harbor Freight freebies; make great panel meters or as a road kit DMM  >:D)

Edit: For disclosure, I got mine as NOS off of eBay for ~$78 shipped a few years ago or so.
« Last Edit: October 14, 2017, 08:11:40 am by nanofrog »
 
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Re: If Brymen BM869s is cheaper and as good, why people would still buy Fluke?
« Reply #386 on: October 14, 2017, 04:09:48 am »
Almost 30 year old Fluke 87s in good shape routinely go for around $150 US! How much is a "good" used Brymen worth? Fluke's are for people who need a meter, Brymen's are for people who want a meter! Nuff said


Fanboi hyperbole....  :bullshit:
 

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Re: If Brymen BM869s is cheaper and as good, why people would still buy Fluke?
« Reply #387 on: October 14, 2017, 06:11:56 am »
Fanboi hyperbole....  :bullshit:
I suspect so, but whatever.  :-// I'll do the best I can to explain matters IME; it's up to the reader to determine if it's relevant to them or not (along with other posts).  :popcorn:

BTW, PM sent as it isn't relevant to the thread IMHO.  ;)
 

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Re: If Brymen BM869s is cheaper and as good, why people would still buy Fluke?
« Reply #388 on: October 14, 2017, 03:48:46 pm »
Almost 30 year old Fluke 87s in good shape routinely go for around $150 US! How much is a "good" used Brymen worth? Fluke's are for people who need a meter, Brymen's are for people who want a meter! Nuff said
A 2-post wonder.  Troll.  Nuff said
How electrically robust is your meter?? https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsK99WXk9VhcghnAauTBsbg
 


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