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Offline KD0CAC John

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DER EE DE-5000 , counterfeit ?
« on: June 12, 2019, 11:26:15 pm »
The last couple of days I have been seeing the DE 5000 hit ebay at half or less of the average low price in the past - $100 - $120 .
Now seeing $50 & $36 ?
Wondering if these are being counterfeited or what ?
 

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Re: DER EE DE-5000 , counterfeit ?
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2019, 11:29:24 pm »
I'd give it a wide berth regardless buddy. Sounds like a con.
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Re: DER EE DE-5000 , counterfeit ?
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2019, 11:31:39 pm »
 

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Re: DER EE DE-5000 , counterfeit ?
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2019, 11:47:07 pm »
Here's one of them , ebays site say they are both in CA different cities .
Both sellers stores show a lot of things I've looked at with prices around $150 - $200 , almost nothing in there stores are over $50 .
https://www.ebay.com/itm/DER-EE-DE-5000-High-Accuracy-Handheld-LCR-Meter-w-TL-21-TL-22-New-F-S-Tracking-/323831689917?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10
Need to find a way to tell ebay when I see these obvious bs . 
 

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Re: DER EE DE-5000 , counterfeit ?
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2019, 12:08:30 am »
Says item is in CA, but...

"Based in China, mqwhg27 has been an eBay member since May 25, 2018"

This has become quite common. Probably will ship from china if it even ships.
 

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Re: DER EE DE-5000 , counterfeit ?
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2019, 02:38:33 am »
just posted on another thread 

Sames pictures,  they say they are in Usa but when you check their store, it say  China and Usa based


https://www.ebay.com/itm/DER-EE-DE-5000-High-Accuracy-Handheld-LCR-Meter-w-TL-21-TL-22-New-F-S-Tracking/323831689917?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/DER-EE-DE-5000-High-Accuracy-Handheld-LCR-Meter-w-TL-21-TL-22-New-F-S-Tracking/323831860749?

Tried to report it to Ebay

Iv'e been bitten in the past, managed to get a refund before they where cancelled and removed.
 

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Re: DER EE DE-5000 , counterfeit ?
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2019, 02:50:06 am »
Yeah, these kinds of scams come in waves. I saw a bunch of them this week. Often, they're well-established accounts that have been hacked into to make them more convincing. Easiest tell is when they have large inventories, most of the items were added only recently, and/or most of what they're selling is priced much lower than everyone else.

Use the "Report this item" button/link in the listing. Then select, Listing practices, Fraudulent listing, You believe this listing may be fraudulent, and submit it.

When I see one, I usually check what else they're selling and submit fraud reports on several (or more if I'm feeling cranky >:D). If you're unsure about the typical pricing, you can often see other listings advertised on the item's page. I don't know why eBay doesn't algorithmically flag these already. Maybe they do and they're dog slow doing anything about them until people start submitting negative feedback.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2019, 02:52:13 am by bitseeker »
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Re: DER EE DE-5000 , counterfeit ?
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2019, 03:36:35 am »
The good thing is, there's buyer protection through ebay. 
https://pages.ebay.com/ebay-money-back-guarantee/
 

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Re: DER EE DE-5000 , counterfeit ?
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2019, 05:09:05 pm »
https://www.ebay.com/itm/DER-EE-DE-5000-High-Accuracy-Handheld-LCR-Meter-w-TL-21-TL-22-New-F-S-Tracking/323831689917?


Seems to have been removed, sad for the people who have paid for nothing :(

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Re: DER EE DE-5000 , counterfeit ?
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2019, 01:50:33 am »
The products may be genuine, but it doesn't mean you'll receive them. :-DD
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Re: DER EE DE-5000 , counterfeit ?
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Re: DER EE DE-5000 , counterfeit ?
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2019, 11:13:50 am »
https://www.ebay.com/itm/DER-EE-DE-5000-High-Accuracy-Handheld-LCR-Meter-w-TL-21-TL-22-New-F-S-Tracking/323831689917?


Seems to have been removed, sad for the people who have paid for nothing :(

and the other say :

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Beware of counterfeit items sold on eBay

This one is still up.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/DER-EE-DE-5000-High-Accuracy-Handheld-LCR-Meter-w-TL-21-TL-22-New-F-S-Tracking/323831860749


Still up and show  China stuff in his/her store ....   
 

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Re: DER EE DE-5000 , counterfeit ?
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2019, 01:08:16 am »
https://www.ebay.com/itm/DER-EE-DE-5000-High-Accuracy-Handheld-LCR-Meter-w-TL-21-TL-22-New-F-S-Tracking/323831689917?


Seems to have been removed, sad for the people who have paid for nothing :(

and the other say :

100% GENUINE PRODUCTS
Beware of counterfeit items sold on eBay

This one is still up.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/DER-EE-DE-5000-High-Accuracy-Handheld-LCR-Meter-w-TL-21-TL-22-New-F-S-Tracking/323831860749


Still up and show  China stuff in his/her store ....
I reported this listing, and eBay said there is already a case of products being sold without prior approval from the owner - i.e., the account was most probably hacked.
The trigger is also seeing many of their products being  sold for the same low price, regardless of the product type itself.
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Re: DER EE DE-5000 , counterfeit ?
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2019, 02:39:27 pm »
I found the report key , then every drop-down menu had nothing that would allow reporting this type of issue .
 

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Re: DER EE DE-5000 , counterfeit ?
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2019, 05:38:43 pm »
Stupid Ebay, seriously  something is going wrong for them ? they love selling and dont give a F@%  for the buyers, they rely on Paypal protection.

Well  Bitten again at  32$ best offer,  if i try 2x items at 32$/ offer,  Ebay say:   i cant do that since i've probably bought from him/her in the past 10 days   :wtf:  Never bought from that name.

But 32$/ offer for 1 is allowed ???    :--

You can make a complain,  listing practices,  other listing practices, item location misrepresentation ...

I actually did that yesterday...  nothing changed, 35 buyers and rising ???


One at 49$ usd
https://www.ebay.com/itm/DER-EE-High-Accuracy-Handheld-LCR-Meter-DE-5000-bundle-TL-21-TL-22-AC-Adapter/362676479162?

Other at 36$ usd
https://www.ebay.com/itm/DER-EE-DE-5000-High-Accuracy-Handheld-LCR-Meter-w-TL-21-TL-22-New-F-S-Tracking/323831860749?
« Last Edit: June 15, 2019, 05:49:58 pm by coromonadalix »
 

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Re: DER EE DE-5000 , counterfeit ?
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2019, 06:14:59 pm »
The $49 offering would be a bit  more credible if the seller's other items didn't include brand new items such as a 3500W sinewave inverter and a Roomba for the exact same price.

I usually use the settings attached to report these.

« Last Edit: June 15, 2019, 06:22:04 pm by rsjsouza »
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Re: DER EE DE-5000 , counterfeit ?
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2019, 08:14:37 pm »
Interesting; the same user doubled down on the offer and reduced the price to $29.99!

The reporting seems to be innocuous.  :--
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Re: DER EE DE-5000 , counterfeit ?
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2019, 08:52:09 pm »
 

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Re: DER EE DE-5000 , counterfeit ?
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2019, 09:31:32 pm »
 

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Re: DER EE DE-5000 , counterfeit ?
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2019, 09:33:57 pm »
When this happened with some meters not long ago eBay eventually shut it down and refunded everyone.
 

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Re: DER EE DE-5000 , counterfeit ?
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2019, 09:36:54 pm »
It relink under a new name  loll   wow              complaint done again  loll

Received this : "This listing was ended by the seller because the item was lost or broken."

Talked to an ebay representative, they dont understand  why the seller name has changed to the "zdda12589" and was "homelikegrandma" originally ???

Same Amount of sold items ....  49 deveived buyers  like me  :wtf:   :palm:

And now i have to wait past the estimated delivery time in 1 month  :(    to open a refund case  pfffffff  this time  i've learned  loll  wont be bitten again for sure.

Done the same complaint for: 29$
https://www.ebay.com/itm/DER-EE-High-Accuracy-Handheld-LCR-Meter-DE-5000-bundle-TL-21-TL-22-AC-Adapter/362676479162?
« Last Edit: June 17, 2019, 10:08:00 pm by coromonadalix »
 

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Re: DER EE DE-5000 , counterfeit ?
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2019, 10:20:21 pm »
How would this make the scammers any money?  I don't think EBay allows cashing out their Paypal accounts before the transaction is completed, do they? 
Or does EBay allow them to profit, and EBay takes the financial hit?

On another note, the scammers should sell something more popular like a new Fluke 87V for $150.   Seems that would net them a lot more than a $39 LCR meter...
 

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Re: DER EE DE-5000 , counterfeit ?
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2019, 11:22:31 pm »
I think Ebay is seriously flawed, you access it thru an email account or poor logging credentials,  you can create many temporary emails, 20 mins or less in life.

Ebay should cross check  credit card, bank accounts  etc...  it should be enforced. They changed some paypal process, you can have cash faster than before.
 

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« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2019, 01:24:21 pm »
How would this make the scammers any money?  I don't think EBay allows cashing out their Paypal accounts before the transaction is completed, do they? 
Or does EBay allow them to profit, and EBay takes the financial hit?

On another note, the scammers should sell something more popular like a new Fluke 87V for $150.   Seems that would net them a lot more than a $39 LCR meter...
I can't help but wonder if the shipping and phone information is what they are looking for. From time to time I receive scam calls entirely spoken in Chinese and I have a vague recollection this happened after I fell for one of these.

If the item is too popular, the listing would get shut down quicker, but I suspect there are a few of these with iPhones and other gadgets.
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Re: DER EE DE-5000 , counterfeit ?
« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2019, 10:47:12 pm »
I've begun suspecting this, too. It's a pretty reliable way to harvest contact data.
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