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Re: Desktop DSO for hardware and firmware development of MCU systems
« Reply #50 on: September 18, 2024, 05:07:10 pm »
After the scope has capture multiple copies of the trigger event plus one screen width of data around trigger point, I can SEARCH the captured data using different 'trigger condition' to find some abnormal events, right?  For example, pulse abnormally higher voltage;  some has RUNT

Even better: the always active history stores the trigger events for you without the need for you to do anything for it. Up to 80000 trigger events (depending on timabase and memory depth) can be stored in the history and inspected to your hearts content afterwards. All the tools are available and a couple advanced triggers are supported for event search, which works across the history if so desired. Compared to Sequence mode, history is just not as fast and there is no guaranteed max. dead time (down to 2 µs!), which is still sufficient in many use cases.

Many thanks for vast number of tests as in https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/sds800x-hd-review-demonstration-thread/msg5293741/#msg5293741

Part one report shows the scope can capture pulse of two to four ns (presumably depends on 1,2 or 4 ch, at 2, 1 and 0.5MSa/s) and SPI decode at tens of time higher than my 10MHz task-on-hand.

Is the software 'practically' no bug for normal use?  Any reason not to buy this (apart from 2000 series has the new serial test mode that measures dozen SPI signal parameters automatically, bigger screen and build-in LA)?
 

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Re: Desktop DSO for hardware and firmware development of MCU systems
« Reply #51 on: September 19, 2024, 07:11:23 am »
After the scope has capture multiple copies of the trigger event plus one screen width of data around trigger point, I can SEARCH the captured data using different 'trigger condition' to find some abnormal events, right?  For example, pulse abnormally higher voltage;  some has RUNT

Even better: the always active history stores the trigger events for you without the need for you to do anything for it. Up to 80000 trigger events (depending on timabase and memory depth) can be stored in the history and inspected to your hearts content afterwards. All the tools are available and a couple advanced triggers are supported for event search, which works across the history if so desired. Compared to Sequence mode, history is just not as fast and there is no guaranteed max. dead time (down to 2 µs!), which is still sufficient in many use cases.

Many thanks for vast number of tests as in https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/sds800x-hd-review-demonstration-thread/msg5293741/#msg5293741

Part one report shows the scope can capture pulse of two to four ns (presumably depends on 1,2 or 4 ch, at 2, 1 and 0.5MSa/s) and SPI decode at tens of time higher than my 10MHz task-on-hand.

Is the software 'practically' no bug for normal use?  Any reason not to buy this (apart from 2000 series has the new serial test mode that measures dozen SPI signal parameters automatically, bigger screen and build-in LA)?
Well we have hung our hat on SDS800X HD models as our low cost but advanced solution as its capabilities well exceed all previous Siglent models at this price point.
Only when you need a 10" display other pricier models get suggested however SDS800X HD is just half your initial budget and I know you will be very impressed with its capability as I have 100% confidence it will meet your needs.
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Re: Desktop DSO for hardware and firmware development of MCU systems
« Reply #52 on: September 19, 2024, 12:24:27 pm »
After the scope has capture multiple copies of the trigger event plus one screen width of data around trigger point, I can SEARCH the captured data using different 'trigger condition' to find some abnormal events, right?  For example, pulse abnormally higher voltage;  some has RUNT

Even better: the always active history stores the trigger events for you without the need for you to do anything for it. Up to 80000 trigger events (depending on timabase and memory depth) can be stored in the history and inspected to your hearts content afterwards. All the tools are available and a couple advanced triggers are supported for event search, which works across the history if so desired. Compared to Sequence mode, history is just not as fast and there is no guaranteed max. dead time (down to 2 µs!), which is still sufficient in many use cases.

Many thanks for vast number of tests as in https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/sds800x-hd-review-demonstration-thread/msg5293741/#msg5293741

Part one report shows the scope can capture pulse of two to four ns (presumably depends on 1,2 or 4 ch, at 2, 1 and 0.5MSa/s) and SPI decode at tens of time higher than my 10MHz task-on-hand.

Is the software 'practically' no bug for normal use?  Any reason not to buy this (apart from 2000 series has the new serial test mode that measures dozen SPI signal parameters automatically, bigger screen and build-in LA)?
Well we have hung our hat on SDS800X HD models as our low cost but advanced solution as its capabilities well exceed all previous Siglent models at this price point.
Only when you need a 10" display other pricier models get suggested however SDS800X HD is just half your initial budget and I know you will be very impressed with its capability as I have 100% confidence it will meet your needs.
Many thanks for advises.  Yes, it is impressive and learning curve ahead.  Bug thread are mostly resolved and few minor bug (beep sound) was discovered recently.  https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/sds800x-hd-bug-reports-firmware/
 

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Re: Desktop DSO for hardware and firmware development of MCU systems
« Reply #53 on: September 19, 2024, 03:23:15 pm »
The Siglent 800HD logic option is a weird USB thing. I'd take a good look at reviews before deciding on that.

It's not that weird being an external analyzer/adapter, but the consensus is that the 2000 level stuff is obviously better. The SPL2016 logic probe used with the nicer scopes with built-in analyzers is also nicer...but my generic SPL2016 copy works well enough for my needs for ~10% of the price. 😉

Could you say more about your "generic SPL2016 copy"? I wasn't aware (or perhaps have forgotten) that such a thing exists ... ?
 

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Re: Desktop DSO for hardware and firmware development of MCU systems
« Reply #54 on: September 19, 2024, 03:33:13 pm »
The Siglent 800HD logic option is a weird USB thing. I'd take a good look at reviews before deciding on that.

It's not that weird being an external analyzer/adapter, but the consensus is that the 2000 level stuff is obviously better. The SPL2016 logic probe used with the nicer scopes with built-in analyzers is also nicer...but my generic SPL2016 copy works well enough for my needs for ~10% of the price. 😉

Could you say more about your "generic SPL2016 copy"? I wasn't aware (or perhaps have forgotten) that such a thing exists ... ?
Google diy SPL2016
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