Digilent's Analog Discovery - does it run in Wine?

[tggzzz]

I'm considering buying an Analog Discovery, but all the small computers near the workbench run xubuntu. Hence I'd like to know whether I can use Analog Discovery running in wine.

I've already got the "Waveforms" software running in demo mode under wine, so I guess the failure point would be the wine/usb interface.

So, has anyone tried it and succeeded/failed? If not, does anyone have experience of usb+wine for special purpose usb devices?

If it helps anyone to do an experiment, my setup is xubuntu 14 LTS, wine 1.6.1, then (IIRC )
$> WINEARCH=win32 winetricks dotnet30
which installs dotnet20 and then prompts you to download dotnet30
$> WINEARCH=win32 wine digilent.waveforms_v2.7.5.exe

I'd consider running Windows, but I've only got a (virtually unused) WinXP on a large machine in another room, and MS won't sell me Win7 - and I'm not going to faff around with what MS is acknowledges is an enormous cockup i.e. Win8.

[Frex]

Hello tggzz,


I've bought mine and receive it in middle of January. I use mainly a Ubuntu 14.04 based computers at home, and i will of course try to use it in this environment (I use others tools with wine successfully).
So, i will give you a feedback about that as soon i receive it.
If that not work, i will use my VM, that probably will work without issue.
Regards.

Frex

[tggzzz]

I've bought mine and receive it in middle of January. I use mainly a Ubuntu 14.04 based computers at home, and i will of course try to use it in this environment (I use others tools with wine successfully).
So, i will give you a feedback about that as soon i receive it.
If that not work, i will use my VM, that probably will work without issue.

Thank you; I'll look forward to reading that!

I've had surprising success using the DesignSparkPCB tool in wine, although I haven't used its 3d modelling.

[attila]

You can find instructions to setup WaveForms for Linux wine to use Analog Discovery on the following page:
https://forum.digilentinc.com/index.php?/topic/45-waveforms-woks-on-linux/

You might be interested in the next generation of this application:
https://forum.digilentinc.com/index.php?/topic/116-waveforms-for-linux/

[tggzzz]

You can find instructions to setup WaveForms for Linux wine to use Analog Discovery on the following page:
https://forum.digilentinc.com/index.php?/topic/45-waveforms-woks-on-linux/

You might be interested in the next generation of this application:
https://forum.digilentinc.com/index.php?/topic/116-waveforms-for-linux/

Excellent news, thank you for an informative post. I had seen the first link, but not the second.

I wish all posts were as positive!

[nctnico]

As a general note: I've had more luck with running Windows applications in a virtual machine than using Wine. Didn't the PCs come with Windows originally? If yes you could run Windows in a VM. Otherwise you can buy an old Windows license from Ebay.

[tggzzz]

As a general note: I've had more luck with running Windows applications in a virtual machine than using Wine. Didn't the PCs come with Windows originally? If yes you could run Windows in a VM. Otherwise you can buy an old Windows license from Ebay.

So, no direct knowledge then; OK.

It did come with Windows XP, disk crashed, used my WinXP retail disk and that laptop's product key. Product installed, but on first normal got MS dosbox message telling me "shan't". MS said Samsung's responsibility (for the MS message?!), Samsung reasonably said MS responsible for their message.

Only solution: pay retail price for OEM version of something I already purchased. Or install Xface. Guess which one I chose, and haven't regretted it. Foot, say hello to bullet.

The only thing I use Win for nowadays is Condor gliding simulator and Atmel dev environment. Everything else has a linux alternative or runs under wine (e.g. DesignSparkPCB, or various spices)

MS is a zombie, in the same sense as IBM was a zombie in the early 80s.

[nctnico]

The trick is to download a Windows install DVD image from internet which has all the activation sh*t removed. As you said: you already paid for using Windows on that machine.

[tggzzz]

The trick is to download a Windows install DVD image from internet which has all the activation sh*t removed. As you said: you already paid for using Windows on that machine.

Hoe would I knw that something undesirable hasn't been added?

[nctnico]

The trick is to download a Windows install DVD image from internet which has all the activation sh*t removed. As you said: you already paid for using Windows on that machine.

Hoe would I knw that something undesirable hasn't been added?

The same way you check Ebay sellers: by reading the feedback and status. It takes some time but the investment is well worth not having to mess around with all kinds of activation schemes and node-locked software. I'm not against paying for software but I'm against suffering extra by paying for software.

[Frex]

Tggzzz,


Attila works for Digilent, and can give you a link to download a newer version of Waveforms software working on Linux, but not already released.
Did you have ask him ? Please do it, and try ! I'm also curious than you.
If that work fine, that will be better  (and simpler for us) than use a VM...

Frex

[tggzzz]

The trick is to download a Windows install DVD image from internet which has all the activation sh*t removed. As you said: you already paid for using Windows on that machine.

Hoe would I knw that something undesirable hasn't been added?

The same way you check Ebay sellers: by reading the feedback and status.

That's insufficient for something as critical as a OS.

[tggzzz]

Attila works for Digilent, and can give you a link to download a newer version of Waveforms software working on Linux, but not already released.
Did you have ask him ? Please do it, and try ! I'm also curious than you.
If that work fine, that will be better  (and simpler for us) than use a VM...

I have the link and a list of what isn't implemented. Some missing features are significant to me. I don't have a timescale for their implementation.

If you are interested then I suggest you email him - that will enable you to determine whether or not the unimplemented parts are important to you.

There appears to be some interesting new capabilities, e.g scripting in JavaScript, and data logging.

[tggzzz]

Having tried varous combinations, I can report that the Waveforms software

Works:

• in unpatched WinXP in a VirtualBox VM image with 256MB RAM, on a desktop xubuntu machine (the VM boots very fast!)
• the Waveforms V3 beta native in xubuntu, albeit with the documented "not yet implemented" limitations

Fails:

• under wine, except in demo mode where the hardware is not present
• the same VirtualBox image as above, but on a netbook 1.6GHz atom 1GB RAM - processor is simply too underpowered to be reliable

Summary: no unpleasant surprises, no pleasant surprises.

[miguelvp]

half kidding, but how will it run on an Intel Compute Stick hooked into your TV?

http://www.engadget.com/2015/01/07/intel-compute-stick/

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/compute-stick/intel-compute-stick.html

I guess with a USB hub for keyboard/mouse.

Then again a quad core Atom might not be enough.

But if you don't want to pay $150 for the Win 8.1 you'll be able to grab a Linux version for $89 so maybe you can run Wine on that

Edit: not available until March and the Linux version has half the RAM and 1/4th the storage.

Also rumors of an Arm Core M version (for Linux I suppose, or Arm RT yuck) might eventually come out as well.