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Re: Digital Oscilloscope Chart
« Reply #225 on: June 07, 2020, 03:36:45 am »
*Fixed spelling "capasitive" to "capacitive" (Comment from jimjam)

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Re: Digital Oscilloscope Chart
« Reply #226 on: June 07, 2020, 03:46:20 am »

Picoscope 4000 series is missing.
Hantek lineup are deadly outdated.

Still long road.  :)
 

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Re: Digital Oscilloscope Chart
« Reply #227 on: June 14, 2020, 05:58:38 am »
*Started revising the descriptions of Max Sample Rate, Max Waveform, Memory Depth and Waveform Update Rate to show the performance change from number of channels used.
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Re: Digital Oscilloscope Chart
« Reply #228 on: June 20, 2020, 03:42:45 am »
Updates

*Continue revising the descriptions of Max Sample Rate, Max Waveform and Memory Depth to show the performance change from number of channels used.
*Added Micsig MS500
*Started to add ENOBS, this is going to take long time, and many will be unknown and black columns.
 

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Re: Digital Oscilloscope Chart
« Reply #229 on: June 28, 2020, 11:42:04 am »
Started to separate columns the models which specs differs of equipped channels, especially for 2ch and 4ch.

This probably going to take long time to to finish
 

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Re: Digital Oscilloscope Chart
« Reply #230 on: June 29, 2020, 03:45:29 pm »
Fixed some of the images were swapped probably due to the database issue.
 

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Re: Digital Oscilloscope Chart
« Reply #231 on: August 29, 2020, 12:20:21 pm »

Added Tekronix 6 Series MSO
 

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Re: Digital Oscilloscope Chart
« Reply #232 on: September 03, 2020, 11:18:48 pm »
Here's a spreadsheet I very recently made comparing 176 oscilloscopes around the same price range as you were considering. Perhaps it will help you with your spreadsheet. I didn't include any <70MHz oscilloscopes or any oscilloscopes with <1Mpts of memory, though.

If you want to keep this spreadsheet's data separate from yours, I wouldn't be against you adding it to the first post in this thread since it will get buried down here. ;D I have no intentions of updating it if I'm happy with the oscilloscope I just purchased, though.
 

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Re: Digital Oscilloscope Chart
« Reply #233 on: September 04, 2020, 10:02:55 am »
Here's a spreadsheet I very recently made comparing 176 oscilloscopes around the same price range as you were considering. Perhaps it will help you with your spreadsheet. I didn't include any <70MHz oscilloscopes or any oscilloscopes with <1Mpts of memory, though.

If you want to keep this spreadsheet's data separate from yours, I wouldn't be against you adding it to the first post in this thread since it will get buried down here. ;D I have no intentions of updating it if I'm happy with the oscilloscope I just purchased, though.

Thanks! Let me work on it, probably this weekend
 

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Re: Digital Oscilloscope Chart
« Reply #234 on: September 06, 2020, 12:12:57 pm »
Hi @CMASupra, I included your chart in the first post. Also created image file from your excel file. Thanks.

 
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Re: Digital Oscilloscope Chart
« Reply #235 on: September 06, 2020, 08:53:34 pm »
Here's a spreadsheet I very recently made comparing 176 oscilloscopes around the same price range as you were considering. Perhaps it will help you with your spreadsheet. I didn't include any <70MHz oscilloscopes or any oscilloscopes with <1Mpts of memory, though.

If you want to keep this spreadsheet's data separate from yours, I wouldn't be against you adding it to the first post in this thread since it will get buried down here. ;D I have no intentions of updating it if I'm happy with the oscilloscope I just purchased, though.
Some corrections for Siglent models listed:
SDS1102CML+             1Mohm inputs only
SDS22/2352X-E use the same 16ch LA module as SDS11/1204X-E, Max mem with all channels active = 14 Mpts
SDS2000X Plus 100 Mpts max mem depth/ch with all channels active, 2 or 4ch models.

Suggested additional feature fields for all models/brands:
LAN: Y or N
Webserver: Y or N
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Re: Digital Oscilloscope Chart
« Reply #236 on: September 07, 2020, 06:03:13 am »
Here's a spreadsheet I very recently made comparing 176 oscilloscopes around the same price range as you were considering. Perhaps it will help you with your spreadsheet. I didn't include any <70MHz oscilloscopes or any oscilloscopes with <1Mpts of memory, though.

If you want to keep this spreadsheet's data separate from yours, I wouldn't be against you adding it to the first post in this thread since it will get buried down here. ;D I have no intentions of updating it if I'm happy with the oscilloscope I just purchased, though.
Some corrections for Siglent models listed:
SDS1102CML+             1Mohm inputs only
SDS22/2352X-E use the same 16ch LA module as SDS11/1204X-E, Max mem with all channels active = 14 Mpts
SDS2000X Plus 100 Mpts max mem depth/ch with all channels active, 2 or 4ch models.

Suggested additional feature fields for all models/brands:
LAN: Y or N
Webserver: Y or N

Hi @tautech,

Thank you for your valuable corrections.
I will revise them, probably next weekend, thanks again
 
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Re: Digital Oscilloscope Chart
« Reply #237 on: September 07, 2020, 09:28:04 pm »
Updates:
1) I have updated the Siglent SDS2202X-E and SDS2352X-E Mpts per channel when all channels are on from 28 to 14. Found this info in the datasheet.
2) Put down 14 Mpts per digital channel on the SDS2202X-E and SDS2352X-E when 4 channels are active per your info and the datasheet. Cannot determine how many GSa/s the digital channels have with 4 channels on as the datasheet only says 1GSa/s max.

Some corrections for Siglent models listed:
SDS1102CML+             1Mohm inputs only
SDS22/2352X-E use the same 16ch LA module as SDS11/1204X-E, Max mem with all channels active = 14 Mpts
SDS2000X Plus 100 Mpts max mem depth/ch with all channels active, 2 or 4ch models.

Suggested additional feature fields for all models/brands:
LAN: Y or N
Webserver: Y or N

1) The SDS1000CML+ datasheet says all those models have 1MOhm and 50Ohm input impedance on page 4 of the datasheet. Why do you say it's 1MOhm only?
2) What do you mean "SDS2000X Plus 100 Mpts max mem depth/ch with all channels active, 2 or 4ch models"? I believe this info was already in the spreadsheet.
3) I didn't add LAN or Web server to the spreadsheet. Would have to go through all these models to add that and be fair. I also considered adding video out (such as VGA or HDMI).
 

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Re: Digital Oscilloscope Chart
« Reply #238 on: September 13, 2020, 04:17:07 pm »
Updates:
1) I have updated the Siglent SDS2202X-E and SDS2352X-E Mpts per channel when all channels are on from 28 to 14. Found this info in the datasheet.
2) Put down 14 Mpts per digital channel on the SDS2202X-E and SDS2352X-E when 4 channels are active per your info and the datasheet. Cannot determine how many GSa/s the digital channels have with 4 channels on as the datasheet only says 1GSa/s max.

Some corrections for Siglent models listed:
SDS1102CML+             1Mohm inputs only
SDS22/2352X-E use the same 16ch LA module as SDS11/1204X-E, Max mem with all channels active = 14 Mpts
SDS2000X Plus 100 Mpts max mem depth/ch with all channels active, 2 or 4ch models.

Suggested additional feature fields for all models/brands:
LAN: Y or N
Webserver: Y or N

1) The SDS1000CML+ datasheet says all those models have 1MOhm and 50Ohm input impedance on page 4 of the datasheet. Why do you say it's 1MOhm only?
2) What do you mean "SDS2000X Plus 100 Mpts max mem depth/ch with all channels active, 2 or 4ch models"? I believe this info was already in the spreadsheet.
3) I didn't add LAN or Web server to the spreadsheet. Would have to go through all these models to add that and be fair. I also considered adding video out (such as VGA or HDMI).

Thanks, I reflected the changes by CMASupra on the first post.
 

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Re: Digital Oscilloscope Chart
« Reply #239 on: October 14, 2020, 12:28:50 pm »
TEXIO DCS-9700 Series :-DD

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Re: Digital Oscilloscope Chart
« Reply #240 on: November 29, 2020, 03:28:40 pm »
Have to add Tektronix 6 Series B MSO, whenI have time
 

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Re: Digital Oscilloscope Chart
« Reply #241 on: December 13, 2020, 02:26:25 am »
New model
SDS1104X-U
https://int.siglent.com/products-overview/sds1000xu/

Quick summary
4ch 100 MHz
1 GSa/s
14 Mpts

Differences from existing SDS1*04X-E models
No web server
No Bode plot
No options: WiFi, AWG or MSO
Only 1mV max sensitivity
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Re: Digital Oscilloscope Chart
« Reply #242 on: December 13, 2020, 04:21:06 pm »
New model
SDS1104X-U
https://int.siglent.com/products-overview/sds1000xu/

Quick summary
4ch 100 MHz
1 GSa/s
14 Mpts

Differences from existing SDS1*04X-E models
No web server
No Bode plot
No options: WiFi, AWG or MSO
Only 1mV max sensitivity

Hi @tautech,

Thank you for the information, give me a few days, I was taking it easy this weekend.
 
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Re: Digital Oscilloscope Chart
« Reply #243 on: December 20, 2020, 10:43:53 am »
New model
SDS1104X-U
https://int.siglent.com/products-overview/sds1000xu/

Quick summary
4ch 100 MHz
1 GSa/s
14 Mpts

Differences from existing SDS1*04X-E models
No web server
No Bode plot
No options: WiFi, AWG or MSO
Only 1mV max sensitivity

Hi @tautech,

Thank you for the information, give me a few days, I was taking it easy this weekend.

Added SDS1104X-U

Thanks,
 

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Re: Digital Oscilloscope Chart
« Reply #244 on: December 20, 2020, 10:45:40 am »
Have to add Tektronix 6 Series B MSO, when I have time

Added Tektronix 6 Series B MSO to google drive but have not reflected on the png images yet.
 
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Re: Digital Oscilloscope Chart
« Reply #245 on: January 01, 2021, 11:21:09 am »
*Added Tekronix 6 Series MSO B
 
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Re: Digital Oscilloscope Chart
« Reply #246 on: January 21, 2021, 09:27:43 am »
There is an error in the table - "SDS2004X-Plus 4ch model"   SDS2104X-Plus can't be upgraded to 350MHz. Upgrade path for SDS2104X-Plus ends with 200MHz max. If you want 350MHz/500MHz you need to buy SDS2354X-Plus for ~$2799

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Re: Digital Oscilloscope Chart
« Reply #247 on: January 21, 2021, 08:16:01 pm »
There is an error in the table - "SDS2004X-Plus 4ch model"   SDS2104X-Plus can't be upgraded to 350MHz. Upgrade path for SDS2104X-Plus ends with 200MHz max. If you want 350MHz/500MHz you need to buy SDS2354X-Plus for ~$2799
I don't believe this is entirely correct.

Certainly it's cheaper to purchase the 350 MHz model outright rather than follow the official BW upgrade path as can be seen by the costs for each BW upgrade when applied to a $1399 SDS2104X Plus:
https://siglentna.com/product/bandwidth-upgrade-100-to-200-mhz-4-channel-models/ $1399
https://siglentna.com/product/bandwidth-upgrade-200-to-350-mhz-4-channel-models/ $1399
https://siglentna.com/product/bandwidth-upgrade-350-to-500-mhz-4-channel-models-2/ $1399

Others have tested unofficial BW upgrades to 350 MHz and their results indicate there is zero difference in the HW compared to genuine 350 MHz models.
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Re: Digital Oscilloscope Chart
« Reply #248 on: March 16, 2021, 04:16:39 pm »
Hey all,

I had a question...
are DSO on aliexpress and alibaba with random chinese names worth the money?
 

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Re: Digital Oscilloscope Chart
« Reply #249 on: April 22, 2021, 06:39:00 am »
That is a loaded question. The general answer is no under most circumstances.  There are edge cases that could justify a few of the models.  One of the main issues is that they don't live up to the claims so if you go by the stated specs you won't get what you are expecting.
 


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