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DSOX1204G 200Mhz vs Used MSO3014A (Calibrated in 2018)
tv84:
--- Quote from: nctnico on October 29, 2021, 09:48:09 am ---Responsiveness doesn't do you any good if you need to press 5 buttons versus 3 buttons on a non-Keysight scope.
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::) Booting a PC requires only one key and people usually complain a lot... Translation: UI and responsiveness are different things and you know it perfectly well.
kcbrown:
--- Quote from: nctnico on October 29, 2021, 09:48:09 am ---Responsiveness doesn't do you any good if you need to press 5 buttons versus 3 buttons on a non-Keysight scope.
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There will always be some differences in how quickly one can get to any given piece of functionality, because different manufacturers prioritize different functionality with respect to that.
That doesn't make one better than the other unconditionally, which is your claim here, but rather it makes one better than the other only with respect to certain functionality.
It could well be that a non-Keysight scope is most optimal for your specific use. That's very different from the claim, which you make here, that a non-Keysight scope is the "best choice" for a non-touchscreen scope, a statement you made without any elaboration whatsoever.
erwets:
Thanks all for the information and discussion. Since the thread began, I've been offered a deal on both the DSOX1204G (fully unlocked) and RTB2004 (with the R2K-COM4 bundle) at $1700 USD and $3400 USD, respectively. I've never used the R&S before, but it seems like a great scope, although $3400 USD is a _hefty_ price tag.
I've opted not to get the used MSO3014A after inspecting it and finding some internal signs of abuse and improper care.
I will likely try and borrow a friend's R&S for a few days to check it out before ordering the Keysight. If the R&S really blows me away, then I'll buy that. Does anyone have any recent experience with the RTB2004 they'd like to share?
The 2104X seems nice on paper, but the last time I used it, I ran into like 3 issues alone which screwed up my workflow. This was about ~1.5 years ago, but it left a bad taste in my mouth. I may consider it again since it seems to have such a pull on a number of hobbyists.
kcbrown:
--- Quote from: erwets on October 29, 2021, 04:56:27 pm ---The 2104X seems nice on paper, but the last time I used it, I ran into like 3 issues alone which screwed up my workflow. This was about ~1.5 years ago, but it left a bad taste in my mouth. I may consider it again since it seems to have such a pull on a number of hobbyists.
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Note that the scope we're talking about is the 2104X+: https://siglentna.com/digital-oscilloscopes/sds2000xp/
It has a touch screen and the UI for that works pretty well. With respect to the UI, its main problem is lack of responsiveness to the front panel. I've supplied a detailed (well, as much as I can reasonably manage) bug report on it here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds2000x-plus-bugs-missing-features-feature-requests/msg3774821/#msg3774821
That doesn't mean it's unusable. It just means that it's not as usable under some circumstances as it should be. And the touch screen UI makes up for a lot of that, because while it might miss events from the front panel, I've never seen it miss events from the touch screen.
Where the 2104X+ shines is in its capabilities. Solid capabilities can make up for a lot of sins.
2N3055:
--- Quote from: erwets on October 29, 2021, 04:56:27 pm ---
The 2104X seems nice on paper, but the last time I used it, I ran into like 3 issues alone which screwed up my workflow. This was about ~1.5 years ago, but it left a bad taste in my mouth. I may consider it again since it seems to have such a pull on a number of hobbyists.
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Wrong scope, not SDS2104X but new 10" touchscreen SDS2104X+ (X Plus), very different animal.
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