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EEVBlog 121GW Discussion thread
JDW:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on February 20, 2023, 09:14:24 pm ---
--- Quote from: JDW on February 19, 2023, 09:19:59 am ---I purchased a 121GW brand new from the official store in Jan. 2023, and I then downloaded the Meteor app for my iPhone. It works well enough via Bluetooth communication, but I wanted to compare with the official 121GW iOS app here. Sadly, it says Not Available regardless of whether I am signed in with my Apple ID for the USA or my other Apple ID for Japan. Is it region locked to Australia (which would be crazy)? Or is the official app totally dead on iOS for some reason?
The reason I even ask is because I dislike the Meteor app because it lacks a FREEZE/HOLD feature. When logging data with the app via Bluetooth, I want to be able to tap the iPhone screen or a button in the app to freeze the waveform display so I can better examine it. If I stop logging, the frustrating Meteor app dims out the waveform display, making it harder to see! I wanted to download the official 121GW app to see if it works better than Meteor in that regard. But again, I can't find the iOS official app anywhere now in 2023!
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I didn't do anything with the IOS app, it hasn't changed since the original release, so AFAIK should still be available. I don't have an iPhone so I can't check.
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Well, it's not.
I searched for the original Apple app store URL and found it on Twitter, but if you click it yourself, you will discover the app is no longer available. Please try it yourself...
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/121gw/id1396353605
I'm assuming you hired someone to create that app originally, since I found a Dave Jones post on Twitter saying "I don't use anything Apple."
https://twitter.com/eevblog/status/1013951195071721472
If so, the entity who created the app should confirm with Apple as to why the iOS version app was removed from the Apple app store, with the aim of having it reinstated.
bicycleguy:
Before you get too excited about the original app know that the 'HOLD' feature only holds the text value. The graph continues to scroll.
I have the app on a 2015 iphone6 with ios12. It still works as originally.
121GW does not show up in the app store because unfortunately apple while claiming to be environmentally sensitive has determined that this phone is too old for them to allow updates to the latest ios16. They want users to trash their perfectly fine phones and buy new ones.
Since Seppy doesn't even own an iPhone he is not a likely candidate to update the app. It would be nice and perhaps help sales of 121GW if Seppy posted the source code on GitHub so others could update the app. I don't understand why Dave doesn't make it so.
JDW:
--- Quote from: bicycleguy on February 21, 2023, 05:18:25 pm ---Before you get too excited about the original app know that the 'HOLD' feature only holds the text value. The graph continues to scroll.
I have the app on a 2015 iphone6 with ios12. It still works as originally.
121GW does not show up in the app store because unfortunately apple while claiming to be environmentally sensitive has determined that this phone is too old for them to allow updates to the latest ios16. They want users to trash their perfectly fine phones and buy new ones.
Since Seppy doesn't even own an iPhone he is not a likely candidate to update the app. It would be nice and perhaps help sales of 121GW if Seppy posted the source code on GitHub so others could update the app. I don't understand why Dave doesn't make it so.
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Well, I still have an iPhone 7, for what it's worth, and I cannot see the app even on that ancient phone!
Any app developer should support the iOS app store due to the sheer number of people out there who use the iPhone, but it is important to click your app links at least once a year to see if the app is still available. Clearly, that hasn't been done here, and if any of you will kindly click the link in my previous post, you will see the app is not there.
Meteor is the only available app, and if it would allow us to FREEZE the screen to view logged waveforms so they won't scroll on by, then my biggest complaint will have been solved, and there perhaps would be no need for the official app. So maybe a tie-up between Dave's developer of the official app (I don't think Dave wrote the app himself) and Meteor would be the best way to approach it.
It's easy for an Android user to flippantly say, "well, I don't use iOS, so I really don't care," but iOS is big worldwide, and some of us have never owned an Android phone, nor do we have plans to get one for the lone purpose of running the official app.
All said, the current status quo of the official app NOT being downloadable on the Apple iOS app store needs to change.
Thanks.
EEVblog:
--- Quote from: bicycleguy on February 21, 2023, 05:18:25 pm ---Since Seppy doesn't even own an iPhone he is not a likely candidate to update the app. It would be nice and perhaps help sales of 121GW if Seppy posted the source code on GitHub so others could update the app. I don't understand why Dave doesn't make it so.
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I thought it already was, apparently not.
The Android app has been there since day 1.
https://gitlab.com/eevblog/
I'd add it but I have no idea how to upload entire directories to gitlab :-//
Brumby:
--- Quote from: bicycleguy on February 21, 2023, 05:18:25 pm ---121GW does not show up in the app store because unfortunately apple while claiming to be environmentally sensitive has determined that this phone is too old for them to allow updates to the latest ios16. They want users to trash their perfectly fine phones and buy new ones.
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It could be even simpler than that.
I had the situation that an App could no longer work with a new release of an O/S as it used features that were discarded in favour of more up-to-date means - and this was an Andriod phone. I can see Apple going the step further and culling any Apps that will not work on their current release - despite older phones being out there that would be capable of running the old App.
While this guides all Apple users into a consistent and current environment, it does squeeze out older - but still quite capable - equipment.
In defence of this approach, the overhead maintaining multiple O/S compatibility in an App is not insignificant - and is often impossible with new features only available with newer operating systems.
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