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J-R:
It should be trivial to pick up a basic Android tablet or an old PC for Windows/Linux.

One reason Windows is popular is due to the backwards compatibility.  It's not perfect, but generally speaking I can run apps from even 20+ years ago by simply double-clicking on them.

Many companies like Apple, Microsoft & Google are pushing users hard towards a combined hardware & software as a service.  Apple is the worst offender here with their proprietary silicon, as you literally do not own your hardware at all and Apple controls it fully.  Windows is not far behind with secure boot and app & device driver signing enforcement.  Android has been steadily moving core functionality into closed-source code for quite some time.

So I think it's safe to say the only users who can honestly avoid shaming these days is Linux users...

JDW:

--- Quote from: J-R on February 27, 2023, 04:33:07 am ---It should be trivial to pick up a basic Android tablet or an old PC for Windows/Linux.
...I think it's safe to say the only users who can honestly avoid shaming these days is Linux users...

--- End quote ---

Well, I as an Apple-product user shouldn't be forced to buy a Windows PC or Android anything just to use the original app for the lone purpose of seeing if it allows me to FREEZE the current waveform being logged AND if see if it dims the display, which is really the LONE problem with Meteor on iOS at the moment.  When using Meteor, the only way to stop the waveform is to stop logging altogether, which infuriatingly dims the screen and doesn't let you get a good look at the frozen waveform.

Because you are pitching Android and Windows, and because I assume you also have a 121GW, perhaps you could give data logging a test for the purpose of telling us if the original 121GW app allows us to freeze the current waveform being logged and if it keeps the waveform in clear view.  If not, the original app is no better than Meteor, and that knowledge saves one from having to buy a Windows PC or Android device.

Thanks.

J-R:
OK, sure, I can tell you that neither the Windows nor Android apps appear to allow you to "freeze" the "waveform".  Also, I don't think I would call it a waveform, just a graph/plot.  It only updates about once per second and is cumulative.  It also continues to graph even when you press Hold (the last value is used for subsequent data points).

JDW:

--- Quote from: J-R on February 27, 2023, 05:31:36 am ---OK, sure, I can tell you that neither the Windows nor Android apps appear to allow you to "freeze" the "waveform".  Also, I don't think I would call it a waveform, just a graph/plot.  It only updates about once per second and is cumulative.  It also continues to graph even when you press Hold (the last value is used for subsequent data points).

--- End quote ---

Useful info, thanks.

When you tell the app to stop logging, does it continue to display the logged graph/plot?  If it does keep displaying it, does the app darken the display of that graph/plot?

J-R:
The graph in the app can't be stopped, you can only reset it.  Although any time the mode/selector dial is changed such that the units change, the graph is reset.

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