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First picture on EEVblog of the new R&S MXO4 series oscilloscope :)
luudee:
--- Quote from: nimish on February 23, 2023, 04:28:15 am ---
Who is taping out an 8nm ASIC for $10M? Can they share their alien technology?
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Not sure how to react to your silly post. 4 years ago we taped out an 8 nm ASIC with Samsung, NRE was about $9.8 Mil USD.
That did not include the $800K for back end services (3rd party), and god only know how much on engineering ...
--- Quote from: nimish on February 23, 2023, 04:28:15 am ---
When it costs in the millions for a mask-set respin I'm not surprised SW has to pick up the tab. The issue is that good SWE cost a lot of $ and HW companies simply don't pay enough. Why would you work on hard EDA/firmware problems when you can write JS for 4x the $?
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lol
Fungus:
--- Quote from: luudee on February 11, 2023, 05:07:48 pm ---Overall, I believe it has become much less critical to properly verify and test hardware and software, since it
has become so easy to provide and install updates.
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This.
By the time the marketing machine has got the software into people's hands there's usually an "update available".
nimish:
--- Quote from: luudee on February 23, 2023, 05:30:17 am ---
--- Quote from: nimish on February 23, 2023, 04:28:15 am ---
Who is taping out an 8nm ASIC for $10M? Can they share their alien technology?
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That did not include the $800K for back end services (3rd party), and god only know how much on engineering ...
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Sure, if you exclude all of the actual costs then you can make it as cheap as you like...
lol
I've heard of ~ $10MM for a full TSMC 7nm mask-set, maybe Samsung low-balled you since their 8nm sucked.
EEVblog:
--- Quote from: nimish on February 23, 2023, 07:53:08 pm ---I've heard of ~ $10MM for a full TSMC 7nm mask-set, maybe Samsung low-balled you since their 8nm sucked.
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Does anyone else ever think about the insaneness of just casually mentioning geometries like this?
One companies 7nm is great, but anothers 8nm sucks.
8 NANO meters! :o
*insert mind blow emoji*
mawyatt:
Now go figure what an individual MosFet cost in a production chip ::)
Mind blowing indeed!!
Best,
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