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First picture on EEVblog of the new R&S MXO4 series oscilloscope :)

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tooki:

--- Quote from: Domitronic on September 28, 2022, 09:54:25 pm ---
--- Quote from: Martin72 on September 28, 2022, 09:24:30 pm ---
--- Quote ---Tektronix does the same with their new 2 Series
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Everyone does it, siglent, rigol also.
You buy a fully loaded scope in every case.
Even when you buy the basic model, every costs are into the price for it plus bonus.
And when you relase an option like freeing a prisioner, it will make more plus.
Therefore they can make "promo-offers" like all options including, without weeping in their cushions.
And therefore I don´t have any problems to free prisioners without paying ransom money.

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Thats not what i meant. Selling options is fine for me of course. There is cost involved to develop software options and its clear for me that it costs money. For example if a bode plot function saves a lot of time at work because i don't have to sweep it manually this money is justified.

Tektronix released the 2 series without the MSO function implemented. Advertising features that are not there but might be in the future is the problem. At least R&S doesn't promise anything in particular and just advertise what is already there. ...

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Weeeeeeelllll...

Early brochures/datasheets and price lists for the MXO 4 listed the MXO4-K530 option (aerospace serial decode) both separately and as a component of the options bundle, and also mentioned mask testing as "coming in a future update". All mention of those has since vanished (as I suppose the Zone button on the front panel would, too, if it weren't hardware...).


I also wish R&S were clearer on whether the digital channels do or do not require a software option. Buying the mixed-signal option includes two digital probes, but the MXO5 brochure claims you can just borrow them from another MXO4 or MXO5. (Meanwhile, the part number of said digital probes is shared among many other scope models, too.)

shabaz:
Just wanted to share a screenshot if people are interested in seeing more of the spectrum analysis!
I was looking at the output from a MAX2870 frequency synthesizer board (cheap board from AliExpress) and decided to try three different instruments. The settings are not like-for-like, admittedly, but to see the spectrum trace fidelity with the MXO is remarkable. The screenshots are for a 30 MHz signal, with the sweep across a wide spectrum range (20-400MHz) to see harmonics.

The normal SAs take several seconds per sweep and so averaging is slower. The MXO display updated perhaps 50-100 times quicker, i.e. it was very real-time.

One of the new features in the software release from last month, is menu pinch-to-zoom. I initially didn't understand the use-case for that. However, now it came in very handy to resize the spectrum controls menu, so it wouldn't get in the way of the trace, so that I could deliberately do a screenshot with the settings in there visible.

tooki:

--- Quote from: shabaz on February 19, 2024, 06:06:03 pm ---One of the new features in the software release from last month, is menu pinch-to-zoom. I initially didn't understand the use-case for that. However, now it came in very handy to resize the spectrum controls menu, so it wouldn't get in the way of the trace, so that I could deliberately do a screenshot with the settings in there visible.

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Nice post!

What software update from last month? I checked last week (and again just now) and the website still shows the October release, 2.0.3.

shabaz:
Thanks!
Sorry, I just checked, I too am running F/W 2.0.3.0. I forgot I'd upgraded that toward the end of last year, and not a month ago.

rbe:
Greetings fellow EEs. I work as a design engineer specializing in power supplies, and I'm seriously contemplating the purchase of a R&S MXO44-242 variant. I've negotiated a discount of a few hundred euros from the initial advertised price. Despite this, it is still a relatively expensive piece of equipment and find myself a bit hesitant about making the final decision. I know this is a cutting edge oscilloscope with great specs, but it seems to lack several measurement/other options, which are available as separate purchases.

In essence, I am trying to justify this purchase and wonder if there might be future special offers from R&S where they bundle these additional measurement options together at a more affordable price compared to buying them individually. I am aware of the 'MXO4-BNDL' that is currently selling here in Europe at around €20,000 (excl. VAT) with BW of 1.5 GHz and additional options, but this is definitely outside of my budget at the moment. I would like to hear your thoughts on this so I can clear up my mind going forward. Thanks in advance! 

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