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First picture on EEVblog of the new R&S MXO4 series oscilloscope :)

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Fungus:

--- Quote from: tv84 on September 28, 2022, 07:55:41 pm ---
--- Quote from: Fungus on September 28, 2022, 07:38:44 pm ---Is the Siglent HD hackable? I'm betting the R&S isn't.

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The HD has been shown to be. You're missing classes.

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Sorry for not following every single Siglent thread...  ;D

tomud:

--- Quote from: Martin72 on September 28, 2022, 08:24:50 pm ---
--- Quote ---For me, the maximum expenditure is the SDS2000X HD level .
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Me too, I was sweating blood while making the moneytransfer...
On the other hand my audio equipment had cost more than double and my interests are actually changing more in the direction of having good measure equipment at home.
But 9000€....Actually impossible to think of.

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I'm better;) + 23% VAT instead of 19% in Germany, with such large amounts it is a good sum to pay :-DD
What's funny, if I bought in Batronix for a company, I would pay 0% VAT - ehh, this is social justice and how to pay taxes honestly  :-//

2N3055:
So it drops down from millions of triggers per second to 1.3k WFMS/s when you enable statistics?

For instance, SDS6000H12 PRO can't achieve 4.5MWFMS/s. It will go up to 150K. But if you enable 6 measurements, with full statistics, measuring over full buffer, an histicons (histograms) for all measurements it will not slow down at ALL.

This only shows how different architectures have it's strengths at different places..

What I like is that they seem to have implemented spectrum analysis that is independent from time domain... That could be interesting if there is mixed mode triggering..

One thing I don't like is that they fully embraced practice to release products that are not feature complete... At this moment it has less protocol decodes than Rigol DS1000Z, Zone button is not implemented ... and god knows what else we cannot see from short video.
Yes I know they will do it, but if I buy a 25000€ scope I would like it to work today not in two years, no matter how I trust them to be good on a promise. It is a simple matter that in that case it is prudent to buy it when it actually can perform tasks needed. In two years..

But it seems to be a nice step forward for R&S...

Domitronic:

--- Quote from: 2N3055 on September 28, 2022, 08:37:58 pm ---
One thing I don't like is that they fully embraced practice to release products that are not feature complete... At this moment it has less protocol decodes than Rigol DS1000Z, Zone button is not implemented ... and god knows what else we cannot see from short video.
Yes I know they will do it, but if I buy a 25000€ scope I would like it to work today not in two years, no matter how I trust them to be good on a promise. It is a simple matter that in that case it is prudent to buy it when it actually can perform tasks needed. In two years..


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That is really a problem today. Tektronix does the same with their new 2 Series. The only way out is to make your decision on what it is at the time you buy and not what might be in the future. Just don't assume anything will be fixed or added later on. And much less expect that anything will be free of charge. If even simple serial decoders come with additional cost, i would assume zone trigger will not be added free of charge but as an option later on.

Martin72:

--- Quote ---Tektronix does the same with their new 2 Series
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Everyone does it, siglent, rigol also.
You buy a fully loaded scope in every case.
Even when you buy the basic model, every costs are into the price for it plus bonus.
And when you relase an option like freeing a prisioner, it will make more plus.
Therefore they can make "promo-offers" like all options including, without weeping in their cushions.
And therefore I don´t have any problems to free prisioners without paying ransom money.

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