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First picture on EEVblog of the new R&S MXO4 series oscilloscope :)

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maxwell3e10:
Keysight's EXR or other "mid-range" models don't go any faster than 200k waveforms/sec. Here is a handy summary.

But: MXO4 slowing down to 1300 waveforms/sec when statistics is enabled is a major problem! What happens when the averaging is turned on?   I can see that the most common use for fast waveform update  is to catch rare events.  But another major use is to quickly accumulate data, such as average and standard deviation.

tomud:

--- Quote from: Fungus on September 28, 2022, 09:40:26 pm ---
--- Quote from: tomud on September 28, 2022, 08:36:01 pm ---What's funny, if I bought in Batronix for a company, I would pay 0% VAT - ehh, this is social justice and how to pay taxes honestly  :-//

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It's not "cheaper" for a company, they'd reclaim the VAT anyway if they bought it in their own country.

European VAT rules are just there to avoid inter-country paperwork - you don't pay VAT on the purchase but you also don't get to reclaim it in your tax returns.

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I know how it works because I also have a company ... Except that so far I have not bought hobby equipment on invoice (although I can - you can see honesty does not pay off too much). However, there is also a subtle difference. Do not pay VAT and pay and wait X time for the return ;) I am ignoring the fact that stupid EU VAT regulations (including the zero rate) are the best for thieves who defraud VAT refunds. Another bullshit recipe that I have to pay more VAT online (when buying for hobby use), it is more profitable for me to go to Germany (producing some CO2, NOx... :-DD) and buy an oscilloscope with a lower VAT rate... ...but this is not a topic for this forum.

goaty:
I got the RTB2004-COM4 promo, so why not wait for the MXO4-COM4 package....

Fungus:

--- Quote from: tomud on September 29, 2022, 05:19:57 am ---I know how it works because I also have a company ... Except that so far I have not bought hobby equipment on invoice (although I can - you can see honesty does not pay off too much).

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In theory I could get the RTB2004EDU with a ton of options for 1790 Euros.

https://www.batronix.com/shop/oscilloscopes/Rohde-Schwarz-RTB2004EDU.html

All the bits bought separately as an ordinary citizen would be over 6000 Euros.

I hate the shiny screen though, so...  :-//


Edit: A day later and the price is now 2233 Euros! I should have snapped one up...  :palm:

2N3055:

--- Quote from: Fungus on September 29, 2022, 09:59:53 am ---
--- Quote from: tomud on September 29, 2022, 05:19:57 am ---I know how it works because I also have a company ... Except that so far I have not bought hobby equipment on invoice (although I can - you can see honesty does not pay off too much).

--- End quote ---

In theory I could get the RTB2004EDU with a ton of options for 1790 Euros.

https://www.batronix.com/shop/oscilloscopes/Rohde-Schwarz-RTB2004EDU.html

All the bits bought separately as an ordinary citizen would be over 6000 Euros.

I hate the shiny screen though, so...  :-//

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Don't forget it's only 70MHz..

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