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| Stupid Beard:
--- Quote from: nctnico on November 05, 2015, 07:54:38 pm --- --- Quote from: Stupid Beard on November 05, 2015, 07:46:45 pm ---Thanks. I guess as long as they work I don't mind too much if they're fake. --- Quote from: nctnico on November 05, 2015, 07:15:38 pm ---I got a new one for $60 including shipping (the square model) after making an offer the seller couldn't refuse because the market is already satured. Not bad to finally toy around a bit with GPIB... --- End quote --- Is this one the one you're referring to? --- End quote --- Yes. Linux recognises it but I have not tested it fully yet. :popcorn: --- End quote --- Thanks. I put an offer in. |
| Scottjd:
Well, mine is registered and says the warranty expired. It should be showing one year for the date of registration. So the serial number was valid. This is now escalated to keysite fraud department and I should be getting a call next week. I have 30 days to return it, but since the serial was already registered I'm surprised they have not picked up on this until now. Since I spent 16 years working digital security, fraud, shutdown down the biggest credit card fraud ring once at that time and securing networks by finding vulnerabilities to protect customer information. Well I don't view this fraud any different. It's stealing from keysite. And the people that buy it may have it burn out to find out its fake past the return date, so it's steeling from them also. All this while the forger gets rich from other people's engineering and designs. Maybe the people selling them don't know? Or maybe they got lied to when they bought a block of them and also found out late. Either way it's a lie. It's taking money and jobs away from people, part of it may be the big companies fault for outsourcing manufacturing and they took the design that way? Or it may have been reversed engineered since some people are talented enough to do such acts. Nothing against that talent, I have to do the same with software code to see if it's secure. But it's my ethics that prevent me from making something malicious to steal from other people. I guess the point of this rant is..... I don't care if it works. I don't support or condone forgeries. Not a $130 GBIP to USB or a $20 set to tweezers. It doesn't matter the cost, it will go back if it works or not. |
| nctnico:
Did you ever hear about installed base or the term 'industry standard'? If Keysight was really worried about the 'fakes' (we still don't know whether these are fake, rejects or surplus!) GPIB adapters they would have shut it down long ago. It just helps to get Keysight's name out there while crushing the competition for cheap GPIB adapters. MAYBE Keysight even initiated it in order not to have to deal with crappy GPIB adapters which aren't compatible with their Benchvue software and flood their support department with questions. For example: 'fake' Xilinx programming cables have been available on Ebay for years and Xilinx is just fine with it. What is better than having a non-core business product they don't have to have produced, stocked and distributed and still supports sales of their products? Life couldn't be easier! |
| HighVoltage:
--- Quote from: Scottjd on November 05, 2015, 07:39:55 pm --- --- Quote from: HighVoltage on November 05, 2015, 07:26:35 pm ---Fake or not, they work well. I had a fake one that I would never have suspected to be a fake one because it worked so well. Well, I sold it anyways and the new owner was very happy with it. As soon as you open up the case and find it not metal coated inside, it is a fake! Because Agilent had shielding metal inside the housing already on the "A" version, as I have shown earlier in this thread. --- End quote --- Since mine I think is a B version, they could have opted to leave it out also. So I don't know why customer service to mention this to me earlier, but if you register on the site make an account you can register your product also. I guess this will start repeating if they are all the same fake batch being made. --- End quote --- I have 4 genuine adapters: 1 x "A" version with shielded case 3 x "B" version with shielded case I doubt that Agilent ever made a run on "A" or "B" versions without the proper shielding If you only look at the fake one, its is hard to see, what we have been talking about. I had both, the genuine and the fake one next to each other and then it becomes very obvious, what is true Agilent quality. Take a look at my pictures, earlier in this thread. |
| Scottjd:
--- Quote from: HighVoltage on November 05, 2015, 09:03:50 pm --- --- Quote from: Scottjd on November 05, 2015, 07:39:55 pm --- --- Quote from: HighVoltage on November 05, 2015, 07:26:35 pm ---Fake or not, they work well. I had a fake one that I would never have suspected to be a fake one because it worked so well. Well, I sold it anyways and the new owner was very happy with it. As soon as you open up the case and find it not metal coated inside, it is a fake! Because Agilent had shielding metal inside the housing already on the "A" version, as I have shown earlier in this thread. --- End quote --- --- End quote --- I have 4 genuine adapters: 1 x "A" version with shielded case 3 x "B" version with shielded case I doubt that Agilent ever made a run on "A" or "B" versions without the proper shielding If you only look at the fake one, its is hard to see, what we have been talking about. I had both, the genuine and the fake one next to each other and then it becomes very obvious, what is true Agilent quality. Take a look at my pictures, earlier in this thread. --- End quote --- EDIT: Fixed the quotes: Thanks, Ive already read the whole thread. I try to read the whole thread before chiming in unless its like 90 pages long. So I saw the pictures. Good to know both A and B have the shielding. Well I have 30 day return on amazon, but I will wait until key sight replies first. They may want it? Fortunately I have a video of me opening it up from the sealed box tape and all with the name Agilent Technologies even on the tape that sealed the box. Since mine I think is a B version, they could have opted to leave it out also. So I don't know why customer service to mention this to me earlier, but if you register on the site make an account you can register your product also. I guess this will start repeating if they are all the same fake batch being made. |
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