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Fluke 87V MAX versus Hioki DT4282 compared [video]
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bdunham7:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on May 18, 2023, 05:26:55 am ---They are clearly protecting a winner, and Fluke have told me as much.

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I think that's more of a "New Coke" story, so we may not agree on what 'protect' means.  If it means promising to continue producing the same old product--even with respun insides--that's one thing and one Fluke does as a matter of policy.  But I don't see that they've protected it in the way that Fungus implies, meaning they deliberately withold other products from the market.  My point was that there were and currently are Fluke products that a user could reasonably buy instead of the 87V.  (They're all cash cows as far as I can tell...) The 189, no matter how named, would have still been a Fluke model that advanced users could have bought instead of the 87 series.  I wouldn't expect Fluke to design and produce a cheaper product with more features  just to compete with themselves.  I think the 87V protects itself with continuing demand for that specific model.
Fungus:

--- Quote from: bdunham7 on May 18, 2023, 05:56:30 am ---But I don't see that they've protected it in the way that Fungus implies, meaning they deliberately withold other products from the market.

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What's your opinion on those "Asia only" models that they don't sell in the USA?
EEVblog:

--- Quote from: bdunham7 on May 18, 2023, 05:56:30 am ---I wouldn't expect Fluke to design and produce a cheaper product with more features  just to compete with themselves.
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They actually trialed this 20+ years ago or so. Although it didn't have more features or better specs. But bang-per-buck was vastly better. It started with the Fluke 19 that was made in China and only sold in the Asia Pacific region which included Australia. Dick Smith used to sell it. It used the 87V (87III?) chipset at the time.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/a-quick-look-at-a-fluke-19-dmm/
But they had serious problems with the chipset failing or some such. We had half a dozen of these at work, and I had one personally, and every one of them eventually failed.
You'd be lucky to find a working model these days.
It was eventually morphed into the 110 series and the 18B+ is the modern equivalent.


--- Quote --- I think the 87V protects itself with continuing demand for that specific model.
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Yes. Military, government, and other industrial sales would drive that. But they deliberately haven't updated it in 20 years now. No extra incremental feature 87VI
BILLPOD:
   I bought my 189 in 2007, and remember choosing it over the 87V because of the logging function. I have never regretted my decision :-DMM
BeBuLamar:
Yes I bought the 189 when Fluke said they couldn't fix my original 87. After I bought the 189 they came out with the 189 II (289) and at the time I thought I made a mistake not waiting a while longer to get the 289. But now I am glad I bought the 189 with my own money. I have both a 289 and a 287 rarely used but I have them for free. I wouldn't pay for them.
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