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Re: Fluke 87V or the 179 vote on Twitter.
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2020, 06:36:35 am »
Neither, the 87-III was superior, they ruined it with the V by making the current modes default to AC every time.

I don't do Twitter.
 

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Re: Fluke 87V or the 179 vote on Twitter.
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2020, 06:55:28 am »
Neither, the 87-III was superior, they ruined it with the V by making the current modes default to AC every time.

I don't do Twitter.
I sometimes wonder how often electricians use the 10A range to measure AC compared to the rest of us mainly doing the odd DC measurement.
I'm certain that electricians would prefer the convenience and safety of a current clamp meter anyway.
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Re: Fluke 87V or the 179 vote on Twitter.
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2020, 08:14:42 am »
The 101 and 189 and the only Flukes worth having.

The 101 is cheap/safe, the 189 just excels.

 
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Re: Fluke 87V or the 179 vote on Twitter.
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2020, 10:52:15 am »
Neither, the 87-III was superior, they ruined it with the V by making the current modes default to AC every time.

I don't do Twitter.

Yep they ruined it  .... the 187 or 189 where the best meters ever,  before the "Bulky 187-189 II"
 

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Re: Fluke 87V or the 179 vote on Twitter.
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2020, 12:53:15 pm »
Neither, the 87-III was superior, they ruined it with the V by making the current modes default to AC every time.

I don't do Twitter.
I sometimes wonder how often electricians use the 10A range to measure AC compared to the rest of us mainly doing the odd DC measurement.
I'm certain that electricians would prefer the convenience and safety of a current clamp anyway.
Above all, I find it hard to believe that it'd be that hard to make the default current mode a user setting. Or heck, sell two versions jumpered differently, like an 87V and 87Vd or something.
 
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Re: Fluke 87V or the 179 vote on Twitter.
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2020, 02:52:10 pm »
Neither, the 87-III was superior, they ruined it with the V by making the current modes default to AC every time.
If like me current measurements are not your thing, this wouldn't be an impairment for the 87V.

The 101 and 189 and the only Flukes worth having.

The 101 is cheap/safe, the 189 just excels.
The 189 is a good meter, although the competition caught up to it. It also does not have the same robustness as the 87V and 179.

IMHO the 101 is way too basic for the price - there are better meters out there for a tad higher price from Brymen, Sanwa, Hioki, etc, but obviously your mileage may vary. Out of the two 101 I got this year, one was returned due to a factory failure and both had bad discoloring on the exposed copper on PCB vias and PCB connections to the input terminals. Both of them were from different lots and different sellers, although none an authorized distributor. Due to this, I personally would never recommend it due to the apparent quality control problems, unless you can buy it from an authorized distributor and really want a Fluke.
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Re: Fluke 87V or the 179 vote on Twitter.
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2020, 03:17:23 pm »
The 189 is a good meter, although the competition caught up to it.

The competition overtook Fluke a few years ago. All that's left is the memories.

(and the yellow color)
 

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Re: Fluke 87V or the 179 vote on Twitter.
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2020, 03:36:14 pm »
The competition overtook Fluke a few years ago. All that's left is the memories.
(and the yellow color)

For most of Fluke's business there really isn't any competition.  The $200 bang-for-buck hobbyist market isn't really their focus.
A 3.5 digit 4.5 digit 5 digit 5.5 digit 6.5 digit DMM is good enough for most people.
 
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Re: Fluke 87V or the 179 vote on Twitter.
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2020, 04:48:05 pm »
The 189 is a good meter, although the competition caught up to it.

The competition overtook Fluke a few years ago. All that's left is the memories.

(and the yellow color)

Aaaaaand my two working 189   :-DD
 

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Re: Fluke 87V or the 179 vote on Twitter.
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2020, 06:46:29 pm »
The 189 is a good meter, although the competition caught up to it.

The competition overtook Fluke a few years ago. All that's left is the memories.

(and the yellow color)
Here's a hint for you: people don't buy Fluke for the features.
 
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Re: Fluke 87V or the 179 vote on Twitter.
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2020, 07:11:00 pm »
(and the yellow color)
Here's a hint for you: people don't buy Fluke for the features.

They buy it for the color. Yellow color shows you know what you're doing when you turn up at a job site.

 

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Re: Fluke 87V or the 179 vote on Twitter.
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2020, 08:42:32 pm »
(and the yellow color)
Here's a hint for you: people don't buy Fluke for the features.

They buy it for the color. Yellow color shows you know what you're doing when you turn up at a job site.
Hint #2: it’s not the color, either.
 

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Re: Fluke 87V or the 179 vote on Twitter.
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2020, 10:32:17 pm »
https://twitter.com/FlukeCorp/status/1281233432639680516

Start a vote here...
Otherwise, clearly the 87V.
Although in private I got a brymen 869s, which is "better" and cheaper.
But here is the choice between 87V and 179.


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Re: Fluke 87V or the 179 vote on Twitter.
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2020, 10:54:26 pm »
https://twitter.com/FlukeCorp/status/1281233432639680516

Start a vote here...
Otherwise, clearly the 87V.
Although in private I got a brymen 869s, which is "better" and cheaper.
But here is the choice between 87V and 179.
I agree with starting a vote here.
However, when considering budget, the difference is not so clear. Even more so if the entire 175/177/179 family is put in the plate.

(and the yellow color)
Here's a hint for you: people don't buy Fluke for the features.

They buy it for the color. Yellow color shows you know what you're doing when you turn up at a job site.
Hint #2: it’s not the color, either.
Knowing Fungus, he is clearly being sarcastic. :-DD
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Re: Fluke 87V or the 179 vote on Twitter.
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2020, 10:59:13 pm »
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However, when considering budget, the difference is not so clear. Even more so if the entire 175/177/179 family is put in the plate.

We got several 177 and 179 here...Don´t like them what the price concerns.
For this price, there are "better" ones avaible.
But fluke is the industrial standard, so we got only fluke here (+100pcs) and it will never changed.  ;)

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Re: Fluke 87V or the 179 vote on Twitter.
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2020, 11:19:34 pm »
My main worry is the possibility of Fluke doing other dumb things to the 87.
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Re: Fluke 87V or the 179 vote on Twitter.
« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2020, 03:30:29 am »
https://twitter.com/FlukeCorp/status/1281233432639680516

Start a vote here...
Otherwise, clearly the 87V.
Although in private I got a brymen 869s, which is "better" and cheaper.
But here is the choice between 87V and 179.
While Brymen refuse to add Diode test beeps, the 87V will remain as my main go to DMM. They have been asked.
I own a Brymen BM857S.

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Re: Fluke 87V or the 179 vote on Twitter.
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2020, 03:58:53 am »
Neither, the 87-III was superior, they ruined it with the V by making the current modes default to AC every time.

I don't do Twitter.

88-V is doing DC instead of AC by default
 
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Re: Fluke 87V or the 179 vote on Twitter.
« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2020, 04:02:18 am »
Neither, the 87-III was superior, they ruined it with the V by making the current modes default to AC every time.

I don't do Twitter.

88-V is doing DC instead of AC by default
How long has that existed for?
Now to look for any unpleasant surprises.
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Re: Fluke 87V or the 179 vote on Twitter.
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2020, 04:12:28 am »
Neither, the 87-III was superior, they ruined it with the V by making the current modes default to AC every time.

I don't do Twitter.

88-V is doing DC instead of AC by default
How long has that existed for?
Now to look for any unpleasant surprises.

88-v is pretty old meter. I checked manual at fluke website and it's dated 2004. However it's not very popular meter from what i can see.
 

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Re: Fluke 87V or the 179 vote on Twitter.
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2020, 08:39:08 am »
https://twitter.com/FlukeCorp/status/1281233432639680516

Start a vote here...
Otherwise, clearly the 87V.
Although in private I got a brymen 869s, which is "better" and cheaper.
But here is the choice between 87V and 179.
While Brymen refuse to add Diode test beeps, the 87V will remain as my main go to DMM. They have been asked.
I own a Brymen BM857S.

So new BM78x series is for you... Auto hold and diode mode was added..
 
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Re: Fluke 87V or the 179 vote on Twitter.
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2020, 08:54:35 pm »
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While Brymen refuse to add Diode test beeps

Hm...Didn´t miss that.
My eyes are always on the display when measure something.

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Re: Fluke 87V or the 179 vote on Twitter.
« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2020, 09:02:16 pm »
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While Brymen refuse to add Diode test beeps

Hm...Didn´t miss that.
My eyes are always on the display when measure something.

Me too, never had much use for Autohold either...
 

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Re: Fluke 87V or the 179 vote on Twitter.
« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2020, 09:23:40 pm »
We´re old school guys, I guess.. ;)
 
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