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Offline McBryceTopic starter

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Fluke IR3000FC Confusion
« on: October 12, 2015, 09:15:42 am »
Hi,
    I've been considering getting myself a Fluke IR3000FC for a while, but I find two completely different prices for what seems to be exactly the same thing. Most prices seem to be around the €150 mark such as here:
http://www.messgeraete-chemnitz.de/Fluke-Zubehoer/Fluke-IR3000FC-WIFI-Connect-Adapter-fuer-187-189-287-289-787-789-IR-3000-FC?gclid=CObfxL3LvMgCFUafGwodXKoBlg

But I've also found a few places selling it at a third of the price such as here:
http://www.eibtron.com/epages/eibtron.sf/?ObjectPath=/Shops/eibtron/Products/811-1385&utm_source=Portalexport&utm_medium=CPC&utm_term=Produktaktion&utm_campaign=GoogleShopping_DE&gclid=CMzS-MPLvMgCFYydGwodTfkI0Q

Is this really the same device? Has the price suddenly dropped, or is the second link some further adapter connector that I don't know about?

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Re: Fluke IR3000FC Confusion
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2015, 09:37:55 am »
I was wondering the same thing. Some other confusement : Does anyone know if it works with the 187? Some sources say it does, while others don't mention the 187 at all..
 

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Re: Fluke IR3000FC Confusion
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2015, 10:36:15 am »
There are 2 different adapters with the same name. You have to dig a bit into Fluke's website to find this info. Have a look at the quick ref guide here:
http://media.fluke.com/documents/ir3000fcqreng0000.pdf

Then, look at Distrelec's web site:
http://www.distrelec.biz/search?q=ir3000

The cheap one is for the 155x devices.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2015, 12:16:06 pm by Groucho2005 »
 

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Re: Fluke IR3000FC Confusion
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2015, 12:21:34 pm »
So I have to pay 3 times the price for a slightly different shaped case???

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Re: Fluke IR3000FC Confusion
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2015, 12:39:15 pm »
On that first link : how about that 'converter' piece for the 189? Is that included or do you have to buy that separately? Also here no mention of the 187  :-\

 

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Re: Fluke IR3000FC Confusion
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2015, 12:41:22 pm »
On that first link : how about that 'converter' piece for the 189? Is that included or do you have to buy that separately? Also here no mention of the 187  :-\
Don't know about the converter piece. The data sheet for the IR3000 does mention the 187 on the second page. All very confusing.
 

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Re: Fluke IR3000FC Confusion
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2015, 01:28:14 pm »
At €43 I'd consider getting one, but at €150 I wouldn't have enough use to justify the price.

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Re: Fluke IR3000FC Confusion
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2015, 11:33:56 am »
I decided to take a chance (knowing that there's always the option to return it if it's wrong) and ordered this adapter: http://www.eibtron.com/epages/eibtron.sf/?ObjectPath=/Shops/eibtron/Products/811-1385&utm_source=Portalexport&utm_medium=CPC&utm_term=Produktaktion&utm_campaign=GoogleShopping_DE&gclid=CMzS-MPLvMgCFYydGwodTfkI0Q

The part arrived this morning, and I'm very happy to say that it really is a real Fluke IR-3000FC for the 289 that is being sold elsewhere for 3 times the price. The adapter looks exactly like this, ie: curved to fit the 289 shape: http://sigma.octopart.com/34277404/image/Fluke-FLUKE-IR3000FC.jpg and includes that piece of plastic which is required for 189 and 789 according to the documentation. McBryce = Very Happy :)

WVL_KsZeN / Groucho2005: The documentation confirms compatibility with: 187/189/287/289/789

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Re: Fluke IR3000FC Confusion
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2015, 01:37:38 pm »
Thanks, I ordered one aswell :-)
 

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Re: Fluke IR3000FC Confusion
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2015, 04:14:21 pm »
Just wanted to confirm McBryce's findings. It comes with the plastic part for the 187/189. You need the 'other' rubber thingy also though, which is normally used for the cabled connection.

By rubber thingy I mean the black rubber part on the back. http://mrmodemhead.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/f189_00/F189_003.JPG

Can't get Fluke connect to work on my 2013 nexus 7 with android 6. The tablet sees the ir3000 fc, but Fluke connect doesn't. It works with my s4 mini though...
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Re: Fluke IR3000FC Confusion
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2015, 08:58:02 am »
I've got the IR3000FC to connect to my HTC One mini 2 so far. I have a Tablet (Asus Z300 10in) which I will try when I have time. I also tried connecting to a PC with a non Fluke Bluetooth LE dongle, but no luck there either.

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Re: Fluke IR3000FC Confusion
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2016, 09:27:45 am »
Looks like eibtron eventually noticed their mistake, the IR-3000 price has jumped to €150. Good that we got there first :)

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Re: Fluke IR3000FC Confusion
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2017, 02:55:36 am »
I don't know if it was an error or a promotion. I purchased from Zoro.com around the same time for $50.  :)
Did anybody figured out how to make it talk to a PC without buying the FLK-pc3000 dongle?
http://www.fluke.com/fluke/sgen/accessories/wireless-accessories/Fluke-pc3000-FC.htm?PID=78549
I also have the USB adapter for the 289 but it would be nicer to connect it wirelessly.
Too many different software packages instead of one that integrate all
Scopemeter
Multimeter (wired)
Multimeter (wireless)
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Re: Fluke IR3000FC Confusion
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2017, 04:36:57 am »
Hello there, here is the link to Fluke Connect Compatibility List
http://support.fluke.com/find-sales/Download/Asset/6002581_0000_ENG_A_W.pdf?trck=fccompatible
at the end of it you will find the "Fluke ConnectTM accessories"
ir3000 FC Wireless Connector (compatible to models: 189, 287, 289 and 789)
ir3000 FC1550 Wireless Connector
pc3000 FC PC Adapter
Wireless FC SD Card

here is the link to Fluke Connect FAQ
http://www.fluke.com/fluke/r0en/products/fluke-connect-faq

here is the link to the EU price list, should be always the latest one
http://content.fluke.com/pdf/ttc-pricelist/italy-ita.pdf
then of course many discounted price all around the internet

Feel free to ask for more info, ciao!
 
« Last Edit: July 26, 2017, 04:40:58 am by simone.pignatti »
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Re: Fluke IR3000FC Confusion
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2017, 07:21:03 am »
I've tried several non-fluke Wireless dongles and laptop integrated wireless, but none of them could find or connect to the Fluke Connect. One of the other users partially disassembled the code and said the software would only connect via a Fluke PC3000 (according to the code he could see).

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Re: Fluke IR3000FC Confusion
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2017, 03:50:01 pm »
Thank you for the replies. It would be nice if Fluke would integrate all the software for PC in one package.
It is funny because the IR3000 FC connects to tablets or phones without any problems. Why can't they do the same for PC's?
Does anybody know what the Micro USB port on the ir3000 FC is for? no drivers for that one either.  :-//
 

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Re: Fluke IR3000FC Confusion
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2017, 12:44:32 pm »
Just sold my F289 and IR3000 and my recollection was that there was no mini USB on the thing. I decided that It was cheaper to purchase a T3000,I3000 or V3000 and use Fluke Connect on my phone. Reception using a smart phone is better too and you can log the incoming data.
 

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Re: Fluke IR3000FC Confusion
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2017, 06:21:42 pm »
What is the micro USB for?  :-//
 

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Re: Fluke IR3000FC Confusion
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2017, 09:08:08 pm »
Never noticed it before, but mine does indeed have a micro USB too.. hmm..

According to http://en-us.fluke.com/products/all-accessories/fluke-ir3000-fc-connector.html#features, you can upgrade the IR3000FC with the USB port :

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Fluke Connect ir3000 FC Connector allows you to wirelessly transfer data from your existing Fluke Tools to your smart phone.

Fits over the IR port of your existing Fluke Tools
Upgradeable by USB
Immediately enables you to graph, save and share the tool's reading with your team from your smart phone
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Re: Fluke IR3000FC Confusion
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2024, 04:00:15 pm »
Sorry for late reply.
I had Fluke ir3000 FC & Fluke 287 lying around for a while but just recently got into Python "programming".

To make long story short: using the micro USB and some kind of serial terminal you can "spy" the data that is being sent from ir3000 FC to the Bluetooth receiver (i.e. smartphone with "Fluke Connect" app).

How I did it:
- plugged the ir3000 FC into Fluke 287 and then connected it via this micro-USB to PC, (switched both ON, the PC indicator on F287 LCD should blink)
- noticed a new "USB Serial Device (COMx)" that appeared in Device Manager (I use Win10)
- in the terminal of choice (I wrote a tiny Python script instead), picked the newly available virtual COM port and set the baudrate to 115200 standard for Fluke 28x series
- started the Fluke Connect app
- depending on how you set up the EOL (end of line) you can receive 2 kinds of messages in the terminal:
    -> by EOL = "LF" (b'\n', or 0x0A) you will get the radio link "status" (keep alive message?), which is sent approximately every 10 seconds:
        example:
            "radio bound, fi connected" or "radio unbound, fi connected"
        this message is sent all the time, not depending on the Bluetooth connection
    -> by EOL = "CR" (b'\r', or 0x0D) you will get namely the "spy" between ir3000 FC and Bluetooth device. This communication is only visible when you are
        actually connected to your Fluke device in the app.
        example (the DMM is set to VDC, showing around "0.0001 VDC" on screen / in the Fluke Connect app):
            "SYS INFO:SPI RX:TIM=0006234123:NOTIFY:PH=05
             SYS INFO:SPI TX:TIM=0006234368:NOTIFY:PH=110101000008020C00000000000000000000"

If you set the EOL to "CR" you will see the keep alive messages as well.
If you disconnect the meter in the app you will see following log:
            "SYS INFO:SPI TX:TIM=0009576262:NTWK CTRL:Read ISW
             SYS INFO:SPI RX:TIM=0009576264:INT DATA:PH=0010
             SYS INFO:ISW=0x0010:TIM=0009576264:INT=Terminate Bound
             SLAVE EVENT:Unbound:TIM=0009576265"

(the log by connecting to the meter in the app is similar to that)

I've tried also sending the commands to the meter, but only the "ID" comes through:
    "CMD RESP:Ack=7:ID:FLUKE IR3000,V01.00.15,-0001"

Despite this whole issue is kind of interesting, it has very limited use, especially if you have a Fluke IR189 USB interface.
 
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Re: Fluke IR3000FC Confusion
« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2024, 09:19:41 pm »
I have a story to tell about these IR3000FC. I orderd 2 units back in 2019 I think. It was before COVID. One of the unit works fine with the 189 and 298 I had at the time. The other won't work. The one that works had a lower serial number. I exchanged the not working unit for new ones 3 times and none work. The vendor got a Fluke representative to come and see me. The guy used the USB port and update the firmware. After that the working unit no longer works. He couldn't get the other unit to work either. So he gave up. I ended up returning both units for refund. He felt bad so he gave me the A3001FC for free. At the time I tried them with the Iphones 5, 6, 7, 11.
Later I think in 2022 I bought another unit. It's still doesn't work right but it's work to certain extend with the 289 but not the 189. This time I tried it with the Iphone 12. When I retired I had to return the Iphone so I pulled out my old Nexus 7 and install Fluke Connect on it and suprisingly it works pefectly with both the 189 and 289. So I then bought a Lenovo P11 Android tablet for the sole purpose of doing this. It works fine. I later on bought a Samsung S23 and it works fine with the S23 too.
Since I get it to work with the 189 and 289 (and 287 too as when I retired they gave me the 287). So I would think it would work with the 187 also.
 
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