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Offline Valentin

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FNIRSI-1013D "100MHz" tablet oscilloscope
« on: April 18, 2020, 03:15:22 pm »
Hello dear people! I was roaming around aliexpress, like one does, looking for cheap equipment and I stumbled across this thing for ~$140 which is really cheap when considering what it's specs state(which I don't really believe after looking at the mini scope's review), looks very new tho and I haven't been able to find any videos or even posts of it anywhere.
So I was wondering I'd come on here and ask you wonderful people if it might be worth buying, or if maybe someone has their hands on this thing. I don't have a scope in my lab yet and I was wondering what I should buy.
I was looking at analog scopes but prices here are absolutely outrageous(150 euros for a used 1 channel 10mhz analog scope, give me a break...), I found some better ones like a 25MHz 2 channel Phillips for 100eu, but for that price, I'd rather use a Chinese USB o-scope with 60Mhz bandwidth, but even then I'd rather use a propper bench scope, so this scope might be something of value.

Here's the listing:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000861098295.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.22127b3doVRRR4&algo_pvid=edb11322-95b9-46ac-9a63-b8edb27f3c5b&algo_expid=edb11322-95b9-46ac-9a63-b8edb27f3c5b-13&btsid=0ab6fb8315872218024854861e5a0e&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_
 

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Re: FNIRSI-1013D "100MHz" tablet oscilloscope
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2020, 03:39:02 pm »
I can't find the exact FNIRSI-1013D 100MHz tablet oscilloscope, your link doesn't work.
Dave's looked at the yellow FNIRSI-5012H 100MHz bandwidth 500MS/s. :popcorn:

CML+  That took much longer than I thought it would.
 

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Re: FNIRSI-1013D "100MHz" tablet oscilloscope
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2020, 04:17:07 pm »
Heres what the listing says: *chinglish spam warning*
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Key features:
1:Intelligent anti-burn,1X Can withstand up to 400V withstand voltage
2:100MHz analog bandwidth @ 1GSa/s sampling rate(1X = 5MHz,10X = 100MHz)
3:Fully fit 7 inch 800 * 480 resolution color TFT LCD display with bright colors and high contrast
4:Capacitive touch screen, the same as the touch mode of modern mobile ipad, is not a resistive touch screen with ancient nail operation
5:High measurement voltage range, 1X can measure 0 ~ 40 V, 10X can measure 0 ~ 400V,100X can measure 0 ~ 4000V
6:Up to 12 parameters measurement:VPP,VP,Vmax,Vmin,Vavg,Vrms,Frequent,Duty+,Duty-,Time+,Time-,Period
7:Cursor measurement function, it is convenient to manually measure the period and frequency and voltage
8:Complete triggering function (single, normal, automatic)
9:At any time, the waveform display (pause function) is frozen
10:Equipped with high efficiency One-button AUTO
11:One-button waveform storage and screenshot
12:Built-in 1GB storage space, can store up to 1000 screenshots + 1000 sets of waveform data
13:Powerful waveform picture manager supports thumbnail browsing, viewing, detailed viewing, page turning, deletion and waveform zooming in, zooming out, moving, etc.
14:Equipped with a USB interface, which can be connected to a computer to share its screenshots with the computer, which is convenient for secondary analysis
15:Lissajous figures graphic display function can be used to determine the amplitude, frequency, and phase contrast of two groups of signals
16:FFT display function, can analyze the spectral characteristics of the signal
17:Built in 6000mAh rechargeable lithium battery,Fully charged for 4 hours of continuous use at the highest screen brightness
18:Memory compression technology, waveform refresh screen does not flicker
19:Screen brightness adjustment
20:Background grid brightness adjustment
21:Ultra thin, easy to carry
 
Specifications:
1:Analog band width: 100MHz * 2
2:Number of channels:2 channels
3:Maximum real time sampling rate: 1GSa/s
4:Vertical sensitivity: 50 mV/div ~ 500 V/div
5:Horizontal time base range: 50S/div ~ 10nS/div
6:Maximum test voltage: 40 V (1X probe), 400 V (10X probe)
7:Storage depth: 240Kbit
8:Input resistance: 1M
9:ADC precision: 8bits
10:Coupling mode: AC/DC
11:Trigger mode: Single, Normal, Auto
12:Trigger edge: Rising edge/Falling edge
13:External trigger voltage 0 – 40 V
14:Display: 7 inch - 800*480
15:Operating: Capacitive touch screen + gesture
16:Extension ports:USB picture export
17:Power supply: 6000 mAh lithium battery
18:Size: 184mm x 124mm x 50mm
19:Total weight:650g
 
Package includes:
1 x FNIRSI-1013D oscilloscope host
2 x Matching 100MHz probe(1X and 10X)
1 x 5V2A Charger(Include USB data line)
1 x User manual (English)
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And here are some images, there's a whole bunch more on the listing, wasn't bothered to screenshot them all:
 

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Re: FNIRSI-1013D "100MHz" tablet oscilloscope
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2020, 02:49:36 pm »
also interested in this tablet o'scope. does any body got hand on this o'scope???
 

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Re: FNIRSI-1013D "100MHz" tablet oscilloscope
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2020, 03:31:48 pm »
also interested in this tablet o'scope. does any body got hand on this o'scope???

Not seeing before.  Seems a new model.

It would be nice if that  BW is really 100MHz
unlike the others which more likely are 20MHz or so

Price would fit if 100MHz  otherwise just a crap
But a mobile bat operated 100MHz w/TFT touch ?

That is nice
Paul

 
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Re: FNIRSI-1013D "100MHz" tablet oscilloscope
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2020, 05:44:34 pm »
I saw that, couldnt help myself and ordered one, I will let you know when I get it. I have to know if the XY mode is as good as the one video I saw or if its bullshit, I MUST KNOW....   :-DD

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Re: FNIRSI-1013D "100MHz" tablet oscilloscope
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2020, 07:10:42 pm »
The main hardware is probably the same garbage as the little one. If you want a tablet oscope don't waste your money and get a micsig.
 

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Re: FNIRSI-1013D "100MHz" tablet oscilloscope
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2020, 07:16:51 pm »
The main hardware is probably the same garbage as the little one. If you want a tablet oscope don't waste your money and get a micsig.

Find out soon enough!  >:D

MicSig is the much better choice if you need a portable scope. I just want to see if its the same old or whether they have actually progressed to something better, there is no pull apart/reviews on it I could find.
 

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Re: FNIRSI-1013D "100MHz" tablet oscilloscope
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2020, 07:30:25 pm »
I expect a better mcu for handling the display and... Nothing else.

Maybe it'd be a decent platform for your own tablet project.
« Last Edit: May 05, 2020, 07:33:34 pm by maginnovision »
 
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Re: FNIRSI-1013D "100MHz" tablet oscilloscope
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2020, 07:04:43 pm »
yeah definitely Micsig is better then this tab o'scope. But micsig is like a bench o'scope specially the sto1104c (with knobs On) looks like a fully featured bench o'scope. while this one could be used in field even if works reasonably around 20Mhz-ish. ::)

@wolfy007 let us know ur opinion when u get it..

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Re: FNIRSI-1013D "100MHz" tablet oscilloscope
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2020, 07:17:20 pm »
Looks pretty nice for the price.
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Re: FNIRSI-1013D "100MHz" tablet oscilloscope
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2020, 08:25:08 pm »
Frontend look similar to the FNIRSI-5012H but they added a FPGA.













« Last Edit: May 06, 2020, 08:36:28 pm by Kosmic »
 
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Re: FNIRSI-1013D "100MHz" tablet oscilloscope
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2020, 10:40:49 pm »
Reads 100 Mhz, or not?
 

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Re: FNIRSI-1013D "100MHz" tablet oscilloscope
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2020, 12:30:06 am »
Can you confirm the bandwidth?  Price is very appealing for a small portable 2 channel scope.

Looks like a few copycat / rebadged versions are making an appearance.
https://au.banggood.com/DANIU-ADS1013D-2-Channels-100MHz-Band-Width-1GSa-or-s-Sampling-Rate-Oscilloscope-with-7-Inch-Color-TFT-LCD-Touch-Screen-p-1641865.html?cur_warehouse=CN

 

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Re: FNIRSI-1013D "100MHz" tablet oscilloscope
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2020, 02:05:46 am »
This is the key:
4:Vertical sensitivity: 50 mV/div ~ 500 V/div
 

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Re: FNIRSI-1013D "100MHz" tablet oscilloscope
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2020, 09:16:37 pm »
Original Poster's link worked for me.

If they had a 4 channel version of this it would be the perfect cheap automotive scope. I don't have the need for anything mobile, but being battery operated would be awesome because then I would be isolated from mains. Even if it operates at half it's claimed bandwidth it would be worth it (to me).
 

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Re: FNIRSI-1013D "100MHz" tablet oscilloscope
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2020, 11:13:01 pm »
Watch out for ESD even so!

I'd be afraid to use such an obviously all solid state scope to measure spark plug timing, but I suppose there must be some way of doing it safeely. tapping off a logic level signal before it goes to the high voltage?


You know, since your use is so specialized, I bet there is a way to do that for much less money. But of course it wouldn't look as cool as a tablet scope. If they can pull this off and its a decent product they deserve some kind of award. It would be such a great thing for experimenters.

They need a better name. "FNIRSI" how does one pronounce that?


Original Poster's link worked for me.

If they had a 4 channel version of this it would be the perfect cheap automotive scope. I don't have the need for anything mobile, but being battery operated would be awesome because then I would be isolated from mains. Even if it operates at half it's claimed bandwidth it would be worth it (to me).
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Re: FNIRSI-1013D "100MHz" tablet oscilloscope
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2020, 12:19:36 am »
allwinner F1C100S for main controller,it looks interesting :)
 

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Re: FNIRSI-1013D "100MHz" tablet oscilloscope
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2020, 06:03:49 am »
Original Poster's link worked for me.

If they had a 4 channel version of this it would be the perfect cheap automotive scope. I don't have the need for anything mobile, but being battery operated would be awesome because then I would be isolated from mains. Even if it operates at half it's claimed bandwidth it would be worth it (to me).
Don't mistake an oscilloscope like this with an oscilloscope suitable to use with mains! This oscilloscope has no protection against touching live parts at all so it is not suitable to use as a floating oscilloscope. You'll need to use a CAT rated differential probe anyway to probe anything connected to mains.
There are small lies, big lies and then there is what is on the screen of your oscilloscope.
 

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Re: FNIRSI-1013D "100MHz" tablet oscilloscope
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2020, 07:18:43 am »
Hi!

Did anyone check if it was capable of 100Mhz? Or where its limit is?
 

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Re: FNIRSI-1013D "100MHz" tablet oscilloscope
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2020, 02:12:24 pm »
4:Vertical sensitivity: 50 mV/div ~ 500 V/div

The link now works for me but I still can't figure it's maximum/Div sensitivity. 50mV/Div makes me think they don't use any amplification on the inputs, which would make the high BW a bit easier.
CML+  That took much longer than I thought it would.
 

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Re: FNIRSI-1013D "100MHz" tablet oscilloscope
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2020, 02:15:34 pm »
Found this video about it ;) Has a nice touch screen interface but not intensity graded or DPO so update rate is probably minimal. But still not a bad bit of kit for the money.

« Last Edit: May 19, 2020, 12:42:57 am by snoopy »
 

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Re: FNIRSI-1013D "100MHz" tablet oscilloscope
« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2020, 02:31:32 pm »
Mine hasnt come in yet with all this disrupted mail stuff, so I cant test anything yet, hopefully Kosmic will have further updates soon.
 

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Re: FNIRSI-1013D "100MHz" tablet oscilloscope
« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2020, 04:05:44 pm »
Mine hasnt come in yet with all this disrupted mail stuff, so I cant test anything yet, hopefully Kosmic will have further updates soon.

Sorry for the confusion, I didn't order one. Found those disassembly pictures on some Russian website.
 


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