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black6host:
@Phil1977

That's what I thought, industrial control.  Not having worked in that environment I'm not familiar with it.  The youtube video in reply #12 was great for showing what it did and accuracy but not what it might be used for.  Thank you for answering!  Cheers!

LastManStanding:

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I never cared to much about this. Around 4mV P2P at 5V output voltage is less than 0.1% relative and less than 0.02% over the output voltage range.

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No, I don't mean noise. It's a slow voltage drop of 2mV (within ~23 seconds) followed by a rapid increase of 2mV (1 second). This results in a sawtooth profile in the recording. Additionally, the device heats up quite quickly, causing an additional deviation of +1.5mV/+1°C. This makes it hardly usable as a reference, and the values are outside the specifications (0.02% +0.003). The manufacturer did not respond to my inquiries, which is unfortunately the usual approach for many Far Eastern manufacturers. Produce, sell, forget... But this is also a reason for the low prices.

I returned the device and received a refund. I assumed that this phenomenon was a defect in my SG-004a. For that reason, the money wasn't worth it to me.

Phil1977:
I think I know this "feature": Once I tried to calibrate the SG04 itself - as far as I remember in current mode. The current was slowly *increasing* and then jumped back a few uA. I think the SG04 is drifting quite a lot with temperature but it has an internal compensation based on its NTC. It seems like the readout of the NTC isn't smooth, so that the temperature compensation is done in steps and leads to this "sawtooth" profile.

In my case this behaviour was still in the tolerance range. Anyhow, such a €100,- device should never be seen as a rock stable absolute reference. For precise calibrations I´d always additionally connect a trustable DMM. But for checking what happens if e.g. if a sensor runs away the SG04 is really nice.

gigotpendu:
Kind of new to the boards use so I pre-apologize for any infractions.

Have a FNIRSI SG-004A that I got as a present. Started playing with it and rather liked what I saw. As I do with new gear I generally update firmware to make sure I'm up to speed on discussions. Big mistake as I seemed to have bricked it. I followed the FNIRSI directions from their web which is actually a JPG file...waited what I thought was a reasonable time and nothing... nada. Tried re-jacking into system several attempts...but nothing. I let it set for a few days jacked back in and actually got connected.. retried with same file and failed again. When it fails there's no immediate second reconnect... almost like power must run down... havent tried 3rd attempt ill let it run down a while... again. Opened the unit and don't see alternate programming port like the TinySA Ultra's.

I have helped others unbrick other Chinese produced products, like the TinySA Ultra, using the processors utility STM. Does anyone have any idea on unbricking this pretty good piece of gear? Appreciate any ideas... pre thanks   

Phil1977:
I really have no idea if it´s a repeatable solution - but look into the following thread:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/microcontrollers/can-i-program-a-w25q80dv-in-circuit

In summary: I also bricked my SG04 by a firmware update. Then I disassembled it to try to connect to the UART-interface. After removing the display from the PCB I connected battery and USB and surprise: The USB-Flashdrive appeared again and I could flash it with the .bin file. Since then everything is working again.

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