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Products => Test Equipment => Topic started by: Timon on April 13, 2014, 10:46:05 pm
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I've been out of the design game for quite a while it I'm getting back in for my self and need to find a nice scope. My scope of choice many years ago was a Tek 475. I guess I could find a used one but I'd like to get something a bit more up to date. I'll mainly be working with uPs plus some power supply work and some RF circuits. I've been looking at a dS1000Z series but I not sure I want to loose 100Mhz of bandwidth I had with the old 475. Anyone have some suggestions or comments that would help?
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It depends on how much you want the four channels. I'm rather fond of my (hacked) DS2072 with 300MHz bandwidth, but it only has two input channels.
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If we knew where you are, we could advise of a local supplier.
What is your definition of "nice"?
If you asked our Dave he would likely say LCD screen DSO to keep up with the times.
There is plenty of choice, how deep are your pockets?
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Country and budget please
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How many times do we need to ask this each time? I really think it is time for country to be mandatory in user profiles
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How many times do we need to ask this each time? I really think it is time for country to be mandatory in user profiles
+1.
Are you listening Dave?
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How many times do we need to ask this each time? I really think it is time for country to be mandatory in user profiles
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(Don't like the question?, just ignore it)
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Since it's your money it's easy for me to say get one of those nice 4-chan agilents at least 300MHz. Or look at the new Tek scopes. Also there's been talk that Tek are coming out with some new models soon. Don't know how soon but might be worth the wait.
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First, I've updated my profile with location information. Sorry I forgot to set that up before posting. Since this is a very International site I +1 that it should require one to add country during initial sign up.
Budget, I'd like to stay under a grand. Even then I'll have to sweet talk my wife to get it.
I'd love a good Tek or Agilent but 3 to 4 grand is not in the budget.
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+1.
Are you listening Dave?
This was polled a long time ago and the response was no, don't make it compulsory.
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First, I've updated my profile with location information. Sorry I forgot to set that up before posting. Since this is a very International site I +1 that it should require one to add country during initial sign up.
Budget, I'd like to stay under a grand. Even then I'll have to sweet talk my wife to get it.
I'd love a good Tek or Agilent but 3 to 4 grand is not in the budget.
What about an older Tek/Agilent? In the 1k category, I think a prime choice would the Siglent 2000 series. They offered me a special deal, try and work one out with them. The price was very nice.
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I always recommend an older and less expensive used oscilloscope so one can gain a better understanding of what they really want or need.
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In the 1k category, I think a prime choice would the Siglent 2000 series. They offered me a special deal, try and work one out with them. The price was very nice.
Who is them? Does Siglent sell directly?
And OP, if you want to get your feet wet, you could also consider the Hantek DSO5062BM @ $330 (hackable to 200MHz).
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In the 1k category, I think a prime choice would the Siglent 2000 series. They offered me a special deal, try and work one out with them. The price was very nice.
Who is them? Does Siglent sell directly?
And OP, if you want to get your feet wet, you could also consider the Hantek DSO5062BM @ $330 (hackable to 200MHz).
Siglent are the ODM that make LeCroy low end scopes. They have been getting better over the years, and the 2000 series looks quite nice.
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In the 1k category, I think a prime choice would the Siglent 2000 series. They offered me a special deal, try and work one out with them. The price was very nice.
Who is them? Does Siglent sell directly?
Siglent are the ODM that make LeCroy low end scopes. They have been getting better over the years, and the 2000 series looks quite nice.
No, who is the "them" you contacted to work out the special deal? Siglent China? How did you contact them?
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In the 1k category, I think a prime choice would the Siglent 2000 series. They offered me a special deal, try and work one out with them. The price was very nice.
Who is them? Does Siglent sell directly?
Siglent are the ODM that make LeCroy low end scopes. They have been getting better over the years, and the 2000 series looks quite nice.
No, who is the "them" you contacted to work out the special deal? Siglent China? How did you contact them?
Yes, Siglent directly. They are on the forum, and they can put you in touch with a salesperson. I believe Herman on the forum can as well.
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Budget, I'd like to stay under a grand. Even then I'll have to sweet talk my wife to get it
The rules of the game have changed, you don't tell your wife now. You said you're getting back into the game so I figured you didn't know the new rules. Here are a few I've learned.
1. You need at least 3 multimeters, one should be a bench meter because the other 2 could suffer a battery leak
2. Keep the lab/bench messy (on purpose or not), this way it's much harder for spouse to spot new gear.
3. Intercept credit card bill at mail box or possibly catch the mail deliverer before they get to your house
4. You probably need two oscilloscopes, how will you fix it should it develop issues
5. encourage your spouse to buy something expensive (not as expensive) to give you bargaining room should they see credit card bill
6. don't tell your spouse unless there's no other way
7. See #6
8. All the rules I forgot go here
Congrats on getting back in the game!
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I like my siglent with all its bells and whistles and the large display BUT! It can be glitchy. Sometimes when it goes to sleep, I can't wake it up without turning it off and back on. Little stuff like that. But it's just my home scope I use for personal projects and the cost is so low I can't really complain. I have my 100mhz BK analog scope on a rack above my bench and I have to say I am using it less and less in favor of the siglent. With shipping and all it was in the $350 us range. One day if I ever really work out of my house I will buy something faster with digital phosphor and more memory, but until then I have not found this scope wanting for anything.
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I like my siglent with all its bells and whistles and the large display BUT! It can be glitchy. Sometimes when it goes to sleep, I can't wake it up without turning it off and back on. Little stuff like that. But it's just my home scope I use for personal projects and the cost is so low I can't really complain. I have my 100mhz BK analog scope on a rack above my bench and I have to say I am using it less and less in favor of the siglent. With shipping and all it was in the $350 us range. One day if I ever really work out of my house I will buy something faster with digital phosphor and more memory, but until then I have not found this scope wanting for anything.
Which model is that?
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See the other thread Tektronics has announced the new models apparently under $1000.
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If budgets a problem then consider a hacked rigol.
There is this https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/oscilloscope-feature-wars-agilent-options/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/oscilloscope-feature-wars-agilent-options/) if you want to legit.
I'm going to check out the new tek scopes.
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See the other thread Tektronics has announced the new models apparently under $1000.
Which thread is that? I only see the one with a rumor.
(The TBS1000 is old news, not competitive.)
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+1.
Are you listening Dave?
This was polled a long time ago and the response was no, don't make it compulsory.
That's a little disingenuous, Dave; the original poll didn't mention that even if the setting was mandatory users could use a 'black flag' to keep their country anonymous.
A more recent poll (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/%28poll%29-setting-the-country-in-new-user-profiles/) resulted in over 60% of respondents voting for required country setting, versus less than 15% voting for the status quo.
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A good look at those poll numbers show approx 2/3 for a flag against 1/3 opposed.
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See the other thread Tektronics has announced the new models apparently under $1000.
I posted that thread. The Siglent SDS2000 is no comparison. Totally different class. More like Agilent 2000X territory.
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I like my siglent with all its bells and whistles and the large display BUT! It can be glitchy. Sometimes when it goes to sleep, I can't wake it up without turning it off and back on. Little stuff like that. But it's just my home scope I use for personal projects and the cost is so low I can't really complain. I have my 100mhz BK analog scope on a rack above my bench and I have to say I am using it less and less in favor of the siglent. With shipping and all it was in the $350 us range. One day if I ever really work out of my house I will buy something faster with digital phosphor and more memory, but until then I have not found this scope wanting for anything.
Which model is that?
SDS 1052DL
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I normally wake them up with the menu "on/off" button as to not change any settings.
Just checked the Siglent site for firmware and current version is 5.06.02.16.
Have you upgraded firmware or do you have this version?
You should contact Siglent directly if your problem remains.
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See the other thread Tektronics has announced the new models apparently under $1000.
I posted that thread. The Siglent SDS2000 is no comparison. Totally different class. More like Agilent 2000X territory.
The Siglent SDS2074 looks great although a bit out of budget at 70mhz. It gets way out of budget at 200Mhz. Still need to add decoding but that's not bad and I could add it in later without my better half complaining.
Need to keep looking.
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See the other thread Tektronics has announced the new models apparently under $1000.
I posted that thread. The Siglent SDS2000 is no comparison. Totally different class. More like Agilent 2000X territory.
The Siglent SDS2074 looks great although a bit out of budget at 70mhz. It gets way out of budget at 200Mhz. Still need to add decoding but that's not bad and I could add it in later without my better half complaining.
Need to keep looking.
And if you include the AWG option that is 2 less units in your work space.
2 less things to have to barter with her for :-)
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Budget, I'd like to stay under a grand. Even then I'll have to sweet talk my wife to get it
The rules of the game have changed, you don't tell your wife now. You said you're getting back into the game so I figured you didn't know the new rules. Here are a few I've learned.
1. You need at least 3 multimeters, one should be a bench meter because the other 2 could suffer a battery leak
2. Keep the lab/bench messy (on purpose or not), this way it's much harder for spouse to spot new gear.
3. Intercept credit card bill at mail box or possibly catch the mail deliverer before they get to your house
4. You probably need two oscilloscopes, how will you fix it should it develop issues
5. encourage your spouse to buy something expensive (not as expensive) to give you bargaining room should they see credit card bill
6. don't tell your spouse unless there's no other way
7. See #6
8. All the rules I forgot go here
Congrats on getting back in the game!
This 1000x!
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In the 1k category, I think a prime choice would the Siglent 2000 series. They offered me a special deal, try and work one out with them. The price was very nice.
Who is them? Does Siglent sell directly?
Yes, Siglent directly. They are on the forum, and they can put you in touch with a salesperson. I believe Herman on the forum can as well.
Siglent just referred me to Tequipment, so I guess they don't sell directly anymore. Was the deal they offered you better than Tequipment - discount?
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In the 1k category, I think a prime choice would the Siglent 2000 series. They offered me a special deal, try and work one out with them. The price was very nice.
Who is them? Does Siglent sell directly?
Yes, Siglent directly. They are on the forum, and they can put you in touch with a salesperson. I believe Herman on the forum can as well.
Siglent just referred me to Tequipment, so I guess they don't sell directly anymore. Was the deal they offered you better than Tequipment - discount?
Significantly.