| Products > Test Equipment |
| Good cheap multi-meter? |
| << < (14/16) > >> |
| GigaJoe:
electrician vs electronics usage a bit difference ... for electronics I personally like OWON BT41T+ after overclocking changing oscillator from 4M to 8M i'm happy with range changing speed .. 20K resistor and shorting, sorry one hand not so precise , https://streamable.com/5ue4xc and it has separate AD[something] chip ac converter , so it really truerms, good for 100+ kHz |
| Fungus:
--- Quote from: mwb1100 on March 25, 2023, 09:12:39 pm --- --- Quote --- I might need to measure mains. so I am looking something safe --- End quote --- I think that would leave out the Aneng's --- End quote --- Why? You're unlikely to die when measuring household mains with one. I don't say we should downplay safety but these meters aren't "dangerous" per se. The AN870 (for example) has ceramic fuses, etc., for occasional use I'd be happy to poke at household AC with one. (after I'd tried plugging in a lamp first, etc) The trick to safety is in procedure. Learn to double-check the leads and dial are in the right position before use. Even a Fluke might make a bang loud enough to make you fall off a ladder if you have the leads in the amps socket. Edit: Having said that: I think a meter with input jack warning is a very, very good idea, not just for mains safety but for bench-work, too. I've blown a 400mA fuse with an AA battery. My life wasn't in danger but it's still very annoying. |
| mwb1100:
--- Quote from: Fungus on March 26, 2023, 01:00:42 pm --- --- Quote from: mwb1100 on March 25, 2023, 09:12:39 pm --- --- Quote --- I might need to measure mains. so I am looking something safe --- End quote --- I think that would leave out the Aneng's --- End quote --- Why? You're unlikely to die when measuring household mains with one. --- End quote --- Since elias87 specifically asked "I am looking something safe", I leaned toward excluding meters that have little protection. Generally when reading/watching reviews of meters lacking much in the way of PTC or MOVs done by people who know more than I do, there are comments like "this meter is fine for electronics work, but I wouldn't used it on anything more than 30V" or that the meter is "good for use on the bench". Not to mention that I imagine there's a range of things short of dying that I for one would like to avoid. :) I mentioned the UT161D because it's in the price range given (at least today) and Uni-T specifically says that "UT161 series are CE certified, suitable for the European market". In other words, Uni-T are specifying the good input protection on the UT161 family. The UT61D+ is a bit cheaper (I think about the same cost as the AN870) and the teardowns I've seen of the UT61x+ family (mostly UT61E+ but one that included the UT61D+) show the same set of MOVs and PTCs as in the UT161x family (but less beefy fuses). However, like I mentioned, I have a feeling that for the UT61x+ meters where Unit-T doesn't specifically say are "CE certified, suitable for the European market" that they might not populate the MOVs and PTCs on all meters manufactured. Uni-T did that for the UT61E - the meters targeted for the EU had full input protection while most (all?) others did not. (but note that I have no evidence they are doing or will do this with the UT61x+ family - just some mistrust about it) I have a UT161D (I opted to pass on the UT161E's 22000 counts to save $30 or so). It's a nice meter for around $50. If you don't care about temperature measurement you can save about 10 USD/EUR by going for the UT161B. |
| Fungus:
--- Quote from: mwb1100 on March 26, 2023, 04:35:05 pm ---Since elias87 specifically asked "I am looking something safe", I leaned toward excluding meters that have little protection. --- End quote --- I'm just pointing out that owning a Fluke doesn't magically make you safe. At best you're safer. --- Quote from: mwb1100 on March 26, 2023, 04:35:05 pm ---Generally when reading/watching reviews of meters lacking much in the way of PTC or MOVs done by people who know more than I do, there are comments like "this meter is fine for electronics work, but I wouldn't used it on anything more than 30V" or that the meter is "good for use on the bench". --- End quote --- Fact: Harbor Freight has given away millions of DT830s to non-qualified people in a very litigious country. :popcorn: --- Quote from: mwb1100 on March 26, 2023, 04:35:05 pm ---I have a UT161D (I opted to pass on the UT161E's 22000 counts to save $30 or so). --- End quote --- I'm just not a Uni-T fan. :-// Plus: You can get a Brymen with real safety rating and input jack alert for about the same money. eg. https://brymen.eu/shop/bm805s/ |
| mwb1100:
--- Quote from: Fungus on March 26, 2023, 05:10:53 pm ---I'm just pointing out that owning a Fluke doesn't magically make you safe. At best you're safer. --- End quote --- Certainly. This is pretty much true for everything. --- Quote from: Fungus on March 26, 2023, 05:10:53 pm ---Fact: Harbor Freight has given away millions of DT830s to non-qualified people in a very litigious country. :popcorn: --- End quote --- Also true (and I have a couple - free is free!). But like I said, elias87 specifically asked "I am looking something safe" --- Quote from: Fungus on March 26, 2023, 05:10:53 pm ---I'm just not a Uni-T fan. :-// Plus: You can get a Brymen with real safety rating and input jack alert for about the same money. eg. https://brymen.eu/shop/bm805s/ --- End quote --- It's certainly OK to not be a Uni-T fan. Everything else the same, I'd prefer Brymen over Uni-T. I was unaware of the BM805s - I think it's a good suggestion for elias87 to consider. |
| Navigation |
| Message Index |
| Next page |
| Previous page |