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Offline BillB

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #625 on: February 16, 2019, 11:15:15 pm »
I just ordered a Siglent SSA3021X with 2.1 tracking generator for $948 brand new with free shipping from Amazon. I had to triple check everything to make sure but yes.

Let me know if I screwed up on this.

Jim

Hey Jim, that seems like a great price.  The description indicates that the TG function is optional, but I believe it is included for free now (as it says in the title of the Item page you linked), as well as the lower RBW.  Might just be old marketing copy, as they are just software changes.  As long as the seller is legit, looks like you got a nice deal (especially if you plan to "upgrade" it).

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #626 on: February 17, 2019, 08:48:13 am »
I thought it was too good to be true. Amazon just cancelled it. I assume it was an old ad.

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #627 on: February 23, 2019, 09:09:50 am »
I thought it was too good to be true. Amazon just cancelled it. I assume it was an old ad.

Jim

You got lucky, it was more likely an unscrupulous third party seller and Amazon cut them off.
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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #628 on: February 23, 2019, 01:44:12 pm »
I would also add, it probably won't be covered under Siglents warranty.  ;)
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #629 on: March 06, 2019, 08:25:05 am »
Hello,
a time ago my SSA3021 was not starting up, just the screen from siglent and stopped. Entry via telnet was still possible
I have placed a few file's back from a backup that I have make before the hack of the SSA3021 and all worked fine again.
now 6 monds later again the same problem.
who can give me the list with files/sub. that are into
/usr/bin/siglent/usr/backup
/usr/bin/siglent/firmdata0
via the telnet must it be possible to readout these list "ls -al"
if some one have a new not hacked SSA3021 it will be interesting me to see what is in there
thanks into advance,
Greetings Luc, ON7KZ
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #630 on: March 11, 2019, 08:36:52 pm »
Hi,

I have an early  (2016) vintage SSA3021X. It was "upgraded" as per this thread in 2016; EMI, AMK, TG, Refl all display as Permanent

I see there is now 25 pages of updates, and I'm not sure if it's "safe" to attempt to load the latest firmware from Siglent without risking either bricking it or loosing the previous enhancements?

SW1 100.01.02.07.07
SW2 20160606-2
SW3 000000D1
HW 07.03.00

Is it safe to upgrade or should I leave it as is?

If it's safe where can I find the latest procedure?

Thanks
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #631 on: March 11, 2019, 08:42:47 pm »
Hi,

I have an early  (2016) vintage SSA3021X. It was "upgraded" as per this thread in 2016; EMI, AMK, TG, Refl all display as Permanent

I see there is now 25 pages of updates, and I'm not sure if it's "safe" to attempt to load the latest firmware from Siglent without risking either bricking it or loosing the previous enhancements?

SW1 100.01.02.07.07
SW2 20160606-2
SW3 000000D1
HW 07.03.00

Is it safe to upgrade or should I leave it as is?

If it's safe where can I find the latest procedure?

Thanks
Let the FW release notes give you some guidance on what has been changed and what you might be missing out on.
You can read them here:
https://www.siglentamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/SSA3000X-Firmware-Revise-History-Update-Instructions_V2.pdf

TG is now free with new units and should've been activated in one of the FW releases.
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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #632 on: March 14, 2019, 07:20:53 pm »
Hi Vitor
  Its the little stuff that can get you. I have putty but was so confident in SecureCRT as I've used it for  ~25 years that I thought there is no way. Well guess what, yes way!

Putty worked like a charm and I performed the mod and all options are permanently and it now reports as a SSA3032x with X's for a serial number.

Here is the updated steps:

Model SSA3021X

SW1 1.2.9.2.a
SW2 20180708-1
SW3 000000E1
HW  0C.03.00

Part 1 - Backup files

1. Insert USB stick
2. Go in System => System info
3. Establish a telnet session with root/ding1234
4. cp -R /usr/bin/siglent/usr/backup /usr/bin/siglent/usr/mass_storage/U-disk0/SA-backup
5. cp -R /usr/bin/siglent/firmdata0 /usr/bin/siglent/usr/mass_storage/U-disk0/SA-firmdata0
8. sync
9. logout

Part 2 - Perform hack
 
1. Establish a telnet session with root/ding1234
2. mount -o remount,rw /dev/ubi2_0 /usr/bin/siglent/firmdata0
2. mv /usr/bin/siglent/firmdata0/NSP_sn_bandwidth.xml /usr/bin/siglent/firmdata0/NSP_sn_bandwidthx.xml
3. mv /usr/bin/siglent/usr/backup/NSP_sn_bandwidth.xml  /usr/bin/siglent/usr/backup/NSP_sn_bandwidthx.xml
4. sync
5. logout
6. Soft power cycle (power off and power on with button "power")
7. Go in System => Pwr On/Preset => Reset & Clear => Enter  # Wait for SSA to complete the erase and it will reboot on its on
8. Soft power cycle (power off and power on with button "power")

Regards to all and all the suggestions were very much appreciated

Worked flawlessly here!  Thank you!
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #633 on: March 18, 2019, 07:15:08 pm »
Hi Vitor
  Its the little stuff that can get you. I have putty but was so confident in SecureCRT as I've used it for  ~25 years that I thought there is no way. Well guess what, yes way!

Putty worked like a charm and I performed the mod and all options are permanently and it now reports as a SSA3032x with X's for a serial number.

Here is the updated steps:

Model SSA3021X

SW1 1.2.9.2.a
SW2 20180708-1
SW3 000000E1
HW  0C.03.00

Part 1 - Backup files

1. Insert USB stick
2. Go in System => System info
3. Establish a telnet session with root/ding1234
4. cp -R /usr/bin/siglent/usr/backup /usr/bin/siglent/usr/mass_storage/U-disk0/SA-backup
5. cp -R /usr/bin/siglent/firmdata0 /usr/bin/siglent/usr/mass_storage/U-disk0/SA-firmdata0
8. sync
9. logout

Part 2 - Perform hack
 
1. Establish a telnet session with root/ding1234
2. mount -o remount,rw /dev/ubi2_0 /usr/bin/siglent/firmdata0
2. mv /usr/bin/siglent/firmdata0/NSP_sn_bandwidth.xml /usr/bin/siglent/firmdata0/NSP_sn_bandwidthx.xml
3. mv /usr/bin/siglent/usr/backup/NSP_sn_bandwidth.xml  /usr/bin/siglent/usr/backup/NSP_sn_bandwidthx.xml
4. sync
5. logout
6. Soft power cycle (power off and power on with button "power")
7. Go in System => Pwr On/Preset => Reset & Clear => Enter  # Wait for SSA to complete the erase and it will reboot on its on
8. Soft power cycle (power off and power on with button "power")

Regards to all and all the suggestions were very much appreciated


This worked for me also. !! 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #634 on: April 04, 2019, 09:36:10 pm »
Anyone know if these hack are working with 0F.03.00 ?
SW1 Version 1.2.9.2.a

I have just got one of these and would like the feature also.
regards

Nick
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #635 on: April 09, 2019, 03:10:59 pm »
I have an SSA3021 that I would like to "open up" but have no Linux experience and worry I might turn it into an expensive brick.
I've got a couple of tutorials on Linux and PuTTY but I'm proceeding cautiously. I know what format C: does for Windows....
Is there anyone in the Little Rock, Arkansas or the Springfield, Missouri area that could help me with this ?
Thanks.
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #636 on: April 11, 2019, 05:16:18 am »
I have very little Linux experience and it worked for me.  If you follow the steps that have been outlined it's pretty easy.  I doubt you will brick the unit but if your really that worried maybe somebody on the forum might be able to use teamviewer and do it remotely.

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #637 on: April 11, 2019, 05:57:04 pm »
Well that's good to hear. I'll practice some more with PuTTY and Telnet on a little Windows notebook and then see if I can work up my nerve. I suppose the really big item is to copy the original files in case of a problem. I have the latest firmware (I think) SSA3000X_v1.2.9.2a_V2.zip as well as the earlier versions going back a couple of years. Did you install all the updates before the Telnet session and do you still have the 10Hz resolution ?
    When they came out with the free TG option I called them and they did give me a code to make that option permanent. I have yet to try that install but suppose it would be a good place to start. The menu is not very intuitive but will work through it....
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #638 on: April 12, 2019, 11:01:42 pm »
Any info on the OF hardware and if this works.?

I can telnet into the system into root OK.

I just don't want to change anything that may upset anything in it.

so some help would be totally appreciated if possible.

Thank in advance.
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #639 on: April 13, 2019, 08:10:46 am »

Anyone modified this version?
Can it be done, it's the new Hardware Version 0F.
Screen shot if anyone can help
« Last Edit: April 13, 2019, 11:21:44 am by NickNacl »
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #640 on: April 13, 2019, 12:01:19 pm »
Or does it actually matter about the HW Version, and it's just the SW version thats involved ?

Maybe this is why I am being ignored, because it's so simple.
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #641 on: April 13, 2019, 12:51:12 pm »
Many thanks for all the help and replies>

Just for the record, and to help anyone else out there who is effectively "ON THEIR OWN"

It does work.
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #642 on: April 16, 2019, 10:37:21 pm »
Yes, that worked for me. I have
SW1: 1.2.9.a
SW2: 20180708-1
SW3: 000000E1
HW:  0F.03.00

However, if I do a System => Pwr On/Preset => Reset & Clear => Enter, the machine resets itself to an SSA3021X and options are temporary (except for TG which is permanent)
When all is said and done, much more is said than done
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #643 on: April 17, 2019, 03:36:29 pm »
doesnt with mine, I do it regularly as I twiddle with things and the only way to get them back is with a reset/clear
I'll just go test now, to see if it is still ok
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #644 on: April 17, 2019, 03:45:24 pm »
Yep, just tried it, it's still there. I video'd it but it was too big to upload.
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #645 on: April 18, 2019, 01:06:04 pm »
I have yet to "open up" mine which is an earlier 2017 version and I have not updated any of the firmware. Does your display still show the serial number as xxxxxx's or does the original number reload? I'm wondering if it can be restored to the factory shipped condition if the original files are reloaded. That way if it needed to be returned for repairs the factory should accept it.  Thanks.
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #646 on: April 18, 2019, 03:40:48 pm »
@TOWERSIGNALS - if your F/W is 7.07 or earlier, please make sure to follow the "improvement" instructions attached to this post before updating the firmware. Upon update to 8.xx, this will generate "official" keys and your serial number will survive and the "hack" cannot be removed by future firmware updates. If your firmware is >= 8.xx, just go ahead and modify the instrument as described in the more recent instructions.
Good luck and all the best,
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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #647 on: April 19, 2019, 02:01:32 pm »
Thanks Thomas. I downloaded your zip file and saved it to my laptop SSA3021 folder. My SSA 3021 serial number has a letter preceding just four numbers at the end. Not five numbers - maybe that is normal.  It's an SSA3021 model from 2017 so I'm sure I do not have the FW 8.xx version. Most all my work is below 1 GHz so it's the added features that are more valuable right now than the extra bandwidth.
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #648 on: April 29, 2019, 12:13:44 pm »
My ssa3021 had 7.07 fw but i upgraded to v8 and hacked so i lost the serial number, is there a procedure to return to 7.0.7 and apply the new hack procedure described by Thomas? If yes what is the correct path step to step, thanks in advance
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #649 on: April 29, 2019, 03:21:56 pm »
My ssa3021 had 7.07 fw but i upgraded to v8 and hacked so i lost the serial number, is there a procedure to return to 7.0.7 and apply the new hack procedure described by Thomas? If yes what is the correct path step to step, thanks in advance

There's no (easy way for) going back. It's just not worthy it! You would have to repartition the NAND, etc, etc

If you want to recover the S/N, remove the hack. It's simple.
 


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