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Offline 65roadster

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #775 on: December 06, 2019, 03:27:11 pm »
Have you been able to determine if it's hack-friendly?
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #776 on: December 07, 2019, 07:33:43 am »
Have you been able to determine if it's hack-friendly?

Investigation in progress, but looking promising, I will post screenshots later  :)

BTW, I brought the unit in a Black Friday sale, so got it around the same price as normal unit. That was before someone posted it was not possible to hack the Plus versions, doh!
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #777 on: December 07, 2019, 09:08:14 am »
Try this script to open telnet port 10101.
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #778 on: December 07, 2019, 07:26:39 pm »
Before and after screenshot of EMI and AMK unlocked. Will post proper photo of bandwidth mod once complete.

 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #779 on: December 07, 2019, 08:48:13 pm »
Update with all options unlocked and 3.2 GHz

 
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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #780 on: December 08, 2019, 04:07:51 am »
That is most excellent. I wish I had seen the Black Friday sale you're referring to!
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #781 on: December 08, 2019, 07:34:48 am »
That is most excellent. I wish I had seen the Black Friday sale you're referring to!

Obviously I could have brought the normal version cheaper too, but very pleased with the end result.
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #782 on: December 08, 2019, 06:14:47 pm »
Obviously I could have brought the normal version cheaper too,........
Yeah but for a couple of hundred bucks extra the SSA3kX Plus models now have touch display, mouse and keyboard support, webserver and Modulation Analysis, any of them are worthy of the increased price IMHO.
These improvements brings SSA3kX into line with the later SVA1kX SA/VNA models that already have all these features.

Enjoy your SSA3032X+ !  :)
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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #783 on: December 08, 2019, 06:17:45 pm »
Obviously I could have brought the normal version cheaper too,........
Yeah but for a couple of hundred bucks extra the SSA3kX Plus models now have touch display, mouse and keyboard support, webserver and Modulation Analysis, any of them are worthy of the increased price IMHO.
These improvements brings SSA3kX into line with the later SVA1kX SA/VNA models that already have all these features.

Enjoy your SSA3032X+ !  :)

Indeed, exactly my reasoning  :)
 
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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #784 on: December 13, 2019, 03:48:30 pm »
Great to hear that it's possible to do the same with the SSA3021X+, got one here.
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #785 on: December 20, 2019, 05:20:53 am »
How are you using the telnet script?

You simply need to copy the telnet file to a USB drive, then perform a fake firmware update from that file.

Leave the update running, and you can telnet to port 10101, password can be found by searching the forum.
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #786 on: December 27, 2019, 11:29:14 pm »
... will all the options remain permanent as they are now ?

Yes.

So updating from Ver 1.2.9.2.a on an unlocked unit to ver  1.2.9.3a is just a case of doing a normal firmware update as if the unit had never had it's options unlocked?  Sounds to easy  :)

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #787 on: December 28, 2019, 09:50:09 pm »
With FW v1.2.9.3a the telnet access has been removed.

This means that you can no longer apply the common hack - unless you apply the pseudo FW file made by fellow forum member tv84. This file will be read and executed by the SSA as if it was a FW update, but the script really just temprarily reactivates the telnet daemon, allowing the hack to by applied once again.

Hope this clears this up.

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #788 on: December 29, 2019, 12:06:08 am »
With FW v1.2.9.3a the telnet access has been removed.

This means that you can no longer apply the common hack - unless you apply the pseudo FW file made by fellow forum member tv84. This file will be read and executed by the SSA as if it was a FW update, but the script really just temprarily reactivates the telnet daemon, allowing the hack to by applied once again.

Hope this clears this up.

Regards,
vma

Thanks, I got it.  I think I will skip the update.  The sorting option is nice but nothing else is really all that usefull.

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #789 on: December 29, 2019, 12:52:13 am »
I think I will skip the update.  The sorting option is nice but nothing else is really all that usefull.
Maybe....if you have considerable SA experience .....

Just the addition of the UNCAL warning in V1.2.9.3a warrants installation IHMO.
'Select All' in the file system is another very handy addition let alone the few measurement bugs that have also been fixed.
Link to V1.2.9.3a release notes:
http://siglentna.com/wp-content/uploads/dlm_uploads/2019/05/SSA3000X-Firmware-Revise-History-Update-Instructions.pdf
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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #790 on: January 05, 2020, 07:51:15 pm »
I have my SSA3032X at fw 1.2.9.1, HW is 07.03.00 and SW2 says 20180320-1.

I have all options enabled and the serial is displayed as XXX... unfortunately I do think I lost the original memory dump files in a pendrive that was misplaced :/

What is the wisest way to approach an upgrade? Will the options be unlocked still after upgrading or there are known caveats?
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #791 on: January 05, 2020, 08:45:08 pm »
Update with all options unlocked and 3.2 GHz

I was able to unlock all of the options on my 3021X Plus using the rename-x trick and the telnet.ADS.  I also added to NSP_system_info.xml:

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<license><_3032>TRUE</_3032><_3021>FALSE</_3021><_TG>TRUE</_TG><_EMI>TRUE</_EMI><_Meas>TRUE</_Meas><_CAT>TRUE</_CAT></license>
However, I'm still not upgraded to 3.2GHz.  I'm confused on what the proper way to do that on the newest Plus firmware is.  Version (FW. 2.2.1.2.5)  Does anyone know?  I'm pretty familiar with Linux.

Thank you.

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #792 on: January 05, 2020, 10:37:03 pm »
Hi btierney,

amazing. How did you do that exactly? Can you tell me a bit more?
I try this since 3 Weeks but when I rename the file with the x-trick the apllication seems not to start anymore.

Do you still have a serial-number? How did you get to manage this?

The only difference was, that my licenses were expired when I started doing this.
Do you have any more information on that?

Would be really helpful.

 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #793 on: January 05, 2020, 11:08:04 pm »
I did still have my serial number after renaming the NSP_sn_bandwidth.xml to NSP_sn_bandwidthx.xml and I think NSP_system_info.xml to NSP_system_infox.xml as well.  I've tried so many different combinations that I'm not 100% sure what all I did now.  I was able to get 3.2GHz working as well, but now my model number is "none" and my serial number is all X.  I think I did that by doing the above and then renaming nsp_data in firmwar0 and backup folders to something else.  I have backups of everything before I started, so I may try to put it back and get the 3.2GHz without messing up the Serial and Model numbers.

Thank you.

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #794 on: January 07, 2020, 10:05:23 pm »
I received my 3021 Plus in the mail today and have all the options unlocked and permanent, retained my SN but it's still a 3021X Plus, not the 3032X Plus.

Any pointers are appreciated!

SW1: 2.2.1.2.3r1

What I did:
- Telnet'ed in using putty, over LAN
- Modified the NSP_system_info.xml to have the license line
- Renamed NSP_system_info.xml to NSP_system_infox.xml
- Renamed NSP_sn_bandwidth.xml to NSP_sn_bandwidthx.xml
- sync, power switch reboot, System->Pwr On/Reset->Reset & Clear, power switch reboot
- I didn't do anything with the telnet.ads script
« Last Edit: January 07, 2020, 10:09:49 pm by 65roadster »
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #795 on: January 07, 2020, 11:22:59 pm »
I received my 3021 Plus in the mail today and have all the options unlocked and permanent, retained my SN but it's still a 3021X Plus, not the 3032X Plus.

Any pointers are appreciated!

SW1: 2.2.1.2.3r1

What I did:
- Telnet'ed in using putty, over LAN
- Modified the NSP_system_info.xml to have the license line
- Renamed NSP_system_info.xml to NSP_system_infox.xml
- Renamed NSP_sn_bandwidth.xml to NSP_sn_bandwidthx.xml
- sync, power switch reboot, System->Pwr On/Reset->Reset & Clear, power switch reboot
- I didn't do anything with the telnet.ads script
Don't think you need it for the first release (factory) firmware for Plus models and as there's only V2.2.1.2.5 available online don't be tempted to update it or you'll not be able to roll the FW back to 2.2.1.2.3r1.
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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #796 on: January 07, 2020, 11:37:11 pm »
Mine came from the factory with V2.2.1.2.5 and no Telnet.  The old script did work, though, so that's good. 
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #797 on: January 08, 2020, 12:37:23 am »
Mine came from the factory with V2.2.1.2.5 and no Telnet.  The old script did work, though, so that's good.
Are you referring to the telnet.ads script (is that just for providing telnet capability)? I recall seeing an upgrade.sh script as well.
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #798 on: January 10, 2020, 05:36:50 pm »
Yes.  It was SSA3000X_Plus_telnet.ADS. 
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #799 on: January 10, 2020, 06:18:41 pm »
Any of the SSA3000X-Plus owners brave enough to follow the forum slogan and do a teardown review of his instrument?  ;)

I'ld love to see the hardware differences to the "non-Plus" version and the similarities to the SVA1032X ...
 


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