Hacking the Rigol MHO900 Scope

[ptluis]

As to that being "illegal", not really. Reverse engineering is not illegal and anyone is normally free to do whatever they want to products they have bought.

It depends. For personal use, probably yes. But if you want to share, then, for example, in the US you can potentially get several years of prison because you'll violate the DMCA. I'm sure it can be similar in many other countries. In any case, should Rigol decide to lift a finger, the respective Patreon account will be gone in no time.

Speaking of the ethical side of things, IMO, selling hacks for money is not good. It goes against the de facto approach that have long been observed in the community, generally speaking.

As far as mods/improvements to the rest of the software go, well, why not. It won't be as welcome as free for all with a donation option, but there's nothing inherently wrong in that.

So it would probably be better to keep the two separate.

Exactly, besides norbert has already been well paid for his crack that took him a few minutes.
Lets see, from buymeacoffe link 7 buyers at 30.4€ = 212.8€
 212.8€ for selling a crack is well paid.

[ptluis]

I think I'm going to buy his crack and post a link for everybody to download it for free!
how do you crack potheads feel about it? it would be really cool right?
how do you norbert feel about it? (you may answer when you got back from your punishment)
You can't sue me because oops! it's not your code!

[dzebrys]

besides norbert has already been well paid for his crack that took him a few minutes.

did you realize this is not a coffee bar chat? and your words represent you? did you care?
it maybe took him 5 minutes because most of the firmware and hw is shared
between Rigol's 12-bit series

I think I'm going to buy his crack and post a link for everybody to download it for free!

oh, said one who just post earlier insulted me with being used to technology piracy 

anyway, i highly encourage you to go for it. it will barely help others as his firmware is somewhat piracy protected from losers like you, but maybe you just realize to what extend you wasted your life if others can archieve this supremacy in 5 minutes

i appologize to the forum for feeding this, was my last word in topic. if anyone from Poland or EU wants to evaluate this firmware mod v0.4.2 on dho804 and has time, equipment and knowledge, please contact me PM and we will settle the details.

warm regards
Piotr

[Sorama]

I think I'm going to buy his crack and post a link for everybody to download it for free!
how do you crack potheads feel about it? it would be really cool right?
how do you norbert feel about it? (you may answer when you got back from your punishment)
You can't sue me because oops! it's not your code!

How low can one go…

[ptluis]

besides norbert has already been well paid for his crack that took him a few minutes.

did you realize this is not a coffee bar chat? and your words represent you? did you care?
it maybe took him 5 minutes because most of the firmware and hw is shared
between Rigol's 12-bit series

I think I'm going to buy his crack and post a link for everybody to download it for free!

oh, said one who just post earlier insulted me with being used to technology piracy 

anyway, i highly encourage you to go for it. it will barely help others as his firmware is somewhat piracy protected from losers like you, but maybe you just realize to what extend you wasted your life if others can archieve this supremacy in 5 minutes

i appologize to the forum for feeding this, was my last word in topic. if anyone from Poland or EU wants to evaluate this firmware mod v0.4.2 on dho804 and has time, equipment and knowledge, please contact me PM and we will settle the details.

warm regards
Piotr

You are the one who call me stupid.
So you're assuming his crack is piracy protected! This is hilarious!
And no more talk with you also.
For all others on this forum I'm done with this subject, i don't want to monopolize your time and hate about this subject. Most of you already get it why my behaviour about this kind of activities.

[ptluis]

I think I'm going to buy his crack and post a link for everybody to download it for free!
how do you crack potheads feel about it? it would be really cool right?
how do you norbert feel about it? (you may answer when you got back from your punishment)
You can't sue me because oops! it's not your code!

How low can one go…

Poor cracker is going to loose money, but he and you doesn't care if they destroy other people's jobs!

[gsobol]

This is sooo entertaining to watch.  It's like high school all over again  -- "I know you are but what am I?" -- Guess what, you all are making good points in your own way, just can't get out of your own way :-).  Hacking has been around as long as people where able to put two thoughts together, it's not unique to computers and code by the way.  It was always vilified as bad and detrimental to progress (more likely the bottom line), and yet amazingly it also contributed to advancement and overall progress of any industry as it brings the benefit of unique and different thought process to that of the original creator.  It ultimately does benefit the society at large.  Unfortunately, yes, it can also kill the product or company behind it, so there is that side of the coin, but in the words of a famous Polish philosopher: "No matter which way you turn, your ass will always be behind you".  Happy hacking, reverse engineering, tinkering and innovating !!!

[TUMEMBER]

besides norbert has already been well paid for his crack that took him a few minutes.

did you realize this is not a coffee bar chat? and your words represent you? did you care?
it maybe took him 5 minutes because most of the firmware and hw is shared
between Rigol's 12-bit series

I think I'm going to buy his crack and post a link for everybody to download it for free!

oh, said one who just post earlier insulted me with being used to technology piracy 

anyway, i highly encourage you to go for it. it will barely help others as his firmware is somewhat piracy protected from losers like you, but maybe you just realize to what extend you wasted your life if others can archieve this supremacy in 5 minutes

i appologize to the forum for feeding this, was my last word in topic. if anyone from Poland or EU wants to evaluate this firmware mod v0.4.2 on dho804 and has time, equipment and knowledge, please contact me PM and we will settle the details.

warm regards
Piotr

You are the one who call me stupid.
So you're assuming his crack is piracy protected! This is hilarious!
And no more talk with you also.
For all others on this forum I'm done with this subject, i don't want to monopolize your time and hate about this subject. Most of you already get it why my behaviour about this kind of activities.

Keep your word and finally shut up, conquistador.

[ptluis]

besides norbert has already been well paid for his crack that took him a few minutes.

did you realize this is not a coffee bar chat? and your words represent you? did you care?
it maybe took him 5 minutes because most of the firmware and hw is shared
between Rigol's 12-bit series

I think I'm going to buy his crack and post a link for everybody to download it for free!

oh, said one who just post earlier insulted me with being used to technology piracy 

anyway, i highly encourage you to go for it. it will barely help others as his firmware is somewhat piracy protected from losers like you, but maybe you just realize to what extend you wasted your life if others can archieve this supremacy in 5 minutes

i appologize to the forum for feeding this, was my last word in topic. if anyone from Poland or EU wants to evaluate this firmware mod v0.4.2 on dho804 and has time, equipment and knowledge, please contact me PM and we will settle the details.

warm regards
Piotr

You are the one who call me stupid.
So you're assuming his crack is piracy protected! This is hilarious!
And no more talk with you also.
For all others on this forum I'm done with this subject, i don't want to monopolize your time and hate about this subject. Most of you already get it why my behaviour about this kind of activities.

Keep your word and finally shut up, conquistador.

I'm keeping quiet because I want to, not because you think you're giving me orders.

[dzebrys]

in the words of a famous Polish philosopher: "No matter which way you turn, your ass will always be behind you".

according to sources https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Bukowski was born far west of Germany from both German parents and then they all migrated to America.
likely his grandfather was Pole from Danzig area, but calling Bukowski Pole is an abuse.

br/Piotr

[Sorama]

I think I'm going to buy his crack and post a link for everybody to download it for free!
how do you crack potheads feel about it? it would be really cool right?
how do you norbert feel about it? (you may answer when you got back from your punishment)
You can't sue me because oops! it's not your code!

How low can one go…

Poor cracker is going to loose money, but he and you doesn't care if they destroy other people's jobs!

Why didn’t we hear you when the Siglent crack came on EEVBLOG?
That is exactly the same, except no bug fixing nor extra features or improvements.

[gsobol]

according to sources https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Bukowski was born far west of Germany from both German parents and then they all migrated to America.
likely his grandfather was Pole from Danzig area, but calling Bukowski Pole is an abuse.

br/Piotr

I guess I forgot to add ... wink wink 

[ptluis]

I think I'm going to buy his crack and post a link for everybody to download it for free!
how do you crack potheads feel about it? it would be really cool right?
how do you norbert feel about it? (you may answer when you got back from your punishment)
You can't sue me because oops! it's not your code!

How low can one go…

Poor cracker is going to loose money, but he and you doesn't care if they destroy other people's jobs!

Why didn’t we hear you when the Siglent crack came on EEVBLOG?
That is exactly the same, except no bug fixing nor extra features or improvements.

First is not about siglent, rigol, etc, not brand related. If you're referring to the license keygen it's not exactly the same, no original file was used, cracked, modified, shared and sold. There's a flaw on copyright law that allows this. Make your own research. Besides, source code was written from scratch, the files generated are new ones, no cracking is made on the original files. In case of license code generation their inputed by legal means, meaning, using the proper function of the equipment.  But if you sell licenses that's another story. There's not much legal stuff to avoid this and the costs of individual law suits won't worth. But this flaw is being discussed so..

But since people still don't realize the seriousness of this subject, I'm going to tell you this: a worldwide legal action is being prepared on government level to shutdown servers, websites, etc. wait and see. I don't care if you believe it or not, it's not my problem. The same way it happened in the beginning of 2025.

When governments realize their losing trillions they'll act.

Norbert is an intelligent, talented guy, I follow him for some time, (yes I know who he is) due to electrical stuff, but the way he act and exposed himself is dumb.

And from the moment Poland join EU they are subject to Europol actions.

This will be the last time I reply about this subject. Believe or think about it if you want, I don't really care. Have a nice day.


 

[Sorama]

I think I'm going to buy his crack and post a link for everybody to download it for free!
how do you crack potheads feel about it? it would be really cool right?
how do you norbert feel about it? (you may answer when you got back from your punishment)
You can't sue me because oops! it's not your code!

How low can one go…

Poor cracker is going to loose money, but he and you doesn't care if they destroy other people's jobs!

Why didn’t we hear you when the Siglent crack came on EEVBLOG?
That is exactly the same, except no bug fixing nor extra features or improvements.

First is not about siglent, rigol, etc, not brand related. If you're referring to the license keygen it's not exactly the same, no original file was used, cracked, modified, shared and sold. There's a flaw on copyright law that allows this. Make your own research. Besides, source code was written from scratch, the files generated are new ones, no cracking is made on the original files. In case of license code generation their inputed by legal means, meaning, using the proper function of the equipment.  But if you sell licenses that's another story. There's not much legal stuff to avoid this and the costs of individual law suits won't worth. But this flaw is being discussed so..

But since people still don't realize the seriousness of this subject, I'm going to tell you this: a worldwide legal action is being prepared on government level to shutdown servers, websites, etc. wait and see. I don't care if you believe it or not, it's not my problem. The same way it happened in the beginning of 2025.

When governments realize their losing trillions they'll act.

Norbert is an intelligent, talented guy, I follow him for some time, (yes I know who he is) due to electrical stuff, but the way he act and exposed himself is dumb.

And from the moment Poland join EU they are subject to Europol actions.

This will be the last time I reply about this subject. Believe or think about it if you want, I don't really care. Have a nice day.

Your argument is that it is a theft, impacting developers and commercial income of manufacturers.
The Siglent script does the exact same thing, so either you consequently condemn the persons involved in the Siglent key crack, or you shut up.

[ptluis]

The Siglent script does the exact same thing, so either you consequently condemn the persons involved in the Siglent key crack, or you shut up.

Who said they won't? you're not my boss to shut me up understand?

[tatel]

stupidity

It looks to me that Norbert is not the only one that needs some days to cool off. Remember, you are entitled to make your opinion clear. Insulting is an entirely different thing.

My own opinion is that your rant can't be taken seriously. Please note i'm not calling you names. But, i'm not taking you seriously.

Dave already stated this forum doesn't have any problem with Norbert's activity. It looks, you don't have one of these devices. So, you are being more papist than the pope. Please go save the corporate world.

[Simon]

So the options are we stop throwing insults around or the thread s locked.

[NE666]

Please don't lock this thread Simon. Until it was completely derailed, some folks found it useful and held an interest in Norbert's work, both from the technical perspective and gaining from it directly. And I hold out some hope that Norbert may 'return' and continue to contribute to it.

May I suggest that you instead treat anyone who now disregards your warning to an extended period on the naughty step themselves?

If someone really wants to continue to debate/argue the ethics of hacking they can start their own thread and take it all there, away from the technical threads, which they are then welcome to leave if it causes them offense.

[EEVblog]

Dave already stated this forum doesn't have any problem with Norbert's activity.

It's not my place to judge whether something is legal or not. And that's probably going to vary from country to country anyway.
All I care is whether or not clearly copyrighted stuff like license keys etc are uploaded to this forum, and whether people are here to share technical info or just shill something.
Norbert has contributed technically to discussions, so in that respect he's allowed here (subject to the usual good behavior everyone should exhibit).

[norbert.kiszka]

Maybe he's bought one in the last few days, but he didn't even have an MHO9xx when initially releasing a hacked firmware.

Few times I said that currently I can't afford the MHO900. Nothing changed.

it does seem to me that he is NOT writing any ARM code or HDLs for that matter but JUST disassembling to intermediate language (smali)

Actually it's both. Mostly ARM Assembly. Smali is more difficult to me.

[dc101]

Do you use JADX for the apk's? Android proguard always makes me angry this is why I normally try to avoid Android, but I don't mind standard libc programs on Android.

I haven't found a working link for the complete firmware, so I've only been going off the firmware update. It's obviously incomplete though, I took a peek at the main file in IDA and it's obvious that it's referring to code that already exists but not in the update.

[Simon]

Please don't lock this thread Simon. Until it was completely derailed, some folks found it useful and held an interest in Norbert's work, both from the technical perspective and gaining from it directly. And I hold out some hope that Norbert may 'return' and continue to contribute to it.

May I suggest that you instead treat anyone who now disregards your warning to an extended period on the naughty step themselves?

If someone really wants to continue to debate/argue the ethics of hacking they can start their own thread and take it all there, away from the technical threads, which they are then welcome to leave if it causes them offense.

I was referring to the insults and squabbling. there has already been a fallout in another thread over this hack or whatever it is.

[EEVblog]

Dedicated thread. Norbert can go wild in there. If he spreads it elsewhere on the forum he'll get banned.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/legalities-of-hacking-the-rigol-mho900-scope/

[norbert.kiszka]

Dedicated thread. Norbert can go wild in there. If he spreads it elsewhere on the forum he'll get banned.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/legalities-of-hacking-the-rigol-mho900-scope/

About half of that moved post was technical.

In the huge part of other half I was saying how bad is the administration of this forum.

I compared some (bigger) competition. Guess who is the admin there - such situations as in this thread are not possible and I explained why.

How it's possible people insulting me here for two years in at least 5 threads for about two years and they have no single warning to this day?

Maybe people with higher post count are allowed to do insults and people with less posts are banned just because such person was reported by 2-3 users.

Why those insults against me was not moved or deleted?

Im disgusted, not because of insults against me, but because of the moderation "quality" being here.

[J-R]

Dedicated thread. Norbert can go wild in there. If he spreads it elsewhere on the forum he'll get banned.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/legalities-of-hacking-the-rigol-mho900-scope/

Im disgusted, not because of insults against me, but because of the moderation "quality" being here.

First, it's probably best to stay quiet for a while.

Second, from what I've seen, the forum moderation is not at the "quality" you expect because there probably aren't enough moderators.  So they take action based on user reports that come in.