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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1425 on: December 04, 2019, 08:33:21 am »
........................My biggest concern with buying this scope without updated FW is the trigger over shoot bug................................
What trigger overshoot bug ?
 

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1426 on: December 04, 2019, 01:45:28 pm »
The one Dave identify in his initial review video of the scope.  This post and the 3 after it discuss the problem and a "fix" that seems to work for some users.
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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1427 on: December 05, 2019, 09:29:51 am »
I don't think it's a widespread problem.
I bought mine in April 2019, so I have HW 1.00 with FW 01.01.04.04.
I never performed a sw calibration, just powered my scope, probe calibration and I have no over/undershoot issue.

 
 

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1428 on: December 05, 2019, 11:47:15 am »
Same here, no overshoot at all running .08 firmware.

Martin 72 has Boris given you any indication of when the 5000 FW is going to updated at all?
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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1429 on: December 05, 2019, 01:54:40 pm »
The one Dave identify in his initial review video of the scope.  This post and the 3 after it discuss the problem and a "fix" that seems to work for some users.
What does that have to do with triggering?
It is a pulse response overshoot, and it is not widespread problem it seems.
 

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1430 on: December 05, 2019, 06:29:10 pm »
Hi,

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Martin 72 has Boris given you any indication of when the 5000 FW is going to updated at all?

In short form he "told" me "in a couple of days (at last) " .
This was on Nov26th.

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1431 on: December 06, 2019, 12:38:28 am »
The 8000 has landed will report back over the weekend

I suspect now the 8000 is moving the 5000 fw upgrade will not be long now
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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1432 on: December 06, 2019, 10:34:01 am »
Mine is a new unit, and does not show this problem
 

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1433 on: December 06, 2019, 09:59:10 pm »
Mine is the "very old" unit (bought in Nov. 2018) and never had any issues at all... ;)
Apart from this, the overshoot issue is a real problem rigol.eu once confirmed to me.

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I suspect now the 8000 is moving the 5000 fw upgrade will not be long now

Boris wrote me it will last a couple of days - this was nearly 2 weeks ago.
I won´t blame him for this, he´s depended from what rigol says to their distribution quarters.



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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1434 on: December 06, 2019, 11:07:16 pm »
Do not think it will be long now before the FW is released
 
The 8000 has some very slick operations compared to the 5000 and 7000 models, nice colour change for the input screens and pretty close to 1.4Ghz with 245ps rise time (currently)

Feels a very different animal to the previous two Phoenix chip-set models.

If they (Rigol) can incorporate some of the 8000's slick gui updates then it will make a lot of you guys very happy.
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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1435 on: December 07, 2019, 07:08:40 pm »
Sighound36 was kind enough to loan me his time and new purchase so that I could try some model changes...  :popcorn:

 
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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1436 on: December 08, 2019, 01:33:51 pm »
Sighound36 was kind enough to loan me his time and new purchase so that I could try some model changes...  :popcorn:

Wow, that was quick...  8)
 

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1437 on: December 09, 2019, 08:00:10 pm »
Apologies new thread started for the MSO8000

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/rigol-mso-8000/
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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1438 on: December 09, 2019, 08:16:43 pm »
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More to come later in the week.

And maybe in a new thread ?

 
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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1439 on: December 10, 2019, 01:46:47 am »
I just received a Rigol DS7014 scope with 01.01.06.00 firmware. I used Putty to open start.sh, but cannot find the place to insert the -fullopt keyword, as there is no appEntry text in the entire script. I'm not a big Linux guy, so any and all help will be appreciated. Thanks!
 

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1440 on: December 10, 2019, 01:49:14 am »
Then rigol has new firmware?
 

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1441 on: December 10, 2019, 01:56:19 am »
All I see in the firmware release notes for the DS7000 are firmware versions v00.01.01.05.09 dated 2018/05/03, and v00.01.01.07.01 dated 2018/07/10. There is no mention of 00.01.01.06.00. Strange.
 

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1442 on: December 10, 2019, 05:02:04 am »
A few questions about my DS7014:

Does the appEntry hack survive firmware upgrades?
Is it possible to downgrade the firmware to 01.01.04 from 01.01.06?
If so, where can I find a copy of the 01.01.04 firmware?

Thanks!
 

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1443 on: December 10, 2019, 06:33:41 pm »
A few questions about my DS7014:

Does the appEntry hack survive firmware upgrades?
Is it possible to downgrade the firmware to 01.01.04 from 01.01.06?
If so, where can I find a copy of the 01.01.04 firmware?

Thanks!

Start a new thread.
 
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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1444 on: December 12, 2019, 06:35:01 pm »
Hi,

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Martin 72 has Boris given you any indication of when the 5000 FW is going to updated at all?

In short form he "told" me "in a couple of days (at last) " .
This was on Nov26th.

Asked today again, the launch date will be postponed until the end of january..  :palm:  :--

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1445 on: December 13, 2019, 07:44:58 am »
Hi,

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Martin 72 has Boris given you any indication of when the 5000 FW is going to updated at all?

In short form he "told" me "in a couple of days (at last) " .
This was on Nov26th.

Asked today again, the launch date will be postponed until the end of january..  :palm:  :--

At this point I'm not going to hold my breath.
 

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1446 on: December 17, 2019, 03:44:20 pm »
I just received a brand new 5072 today and come with the fw ver 01.01.04.08.

Those three files from skander36 are perfectly work.

I encountered a problem while using 16GB USB Drive. But it solved after replace with the 32GB USB Drive. It is highly recommend that you have prepared two or more different brand and size USB Drive before perform the upgrade. My failure one is Sandisk 16GB and workable one is Sandisk 32GB (Tiny one).

Case :
When you found that the USB Drive is empty except the GEL file after the backup process:
   - Attach the USB drive back to the scope, press Storage/Disk
   - If you found there are two or more USB Disk, it means that you may need to try another USB Drive.

Enclosed with all the files from skander36 and backup GEL file from TV84.


My workflow are :
(Please read carefully especially handle the same name GEL files).

1. Format the USB Drive (FAT32 Format);
2. Copy the DS5000Update.GEL.backup.doc to the USB Drive;
3. Rename it by delete the "backup.doc" extension;
4. Attach the USB Drive to scope;
5. Press Utility/System/Help/Local upgrade;
6. After finished the screen will have message told you to reboot the scope;
7. Turn off the scope;
8. Attach the USB drive back to your Mac / PC;
9. Copy all the file except the GEL files and folder back to your Mac / PC for your backup;
10. Format the USB Drive (FAT32 Format);
11. Copy another three files to the USB Drive, rename them by remove the ".doc" extension;
12. Attach the USB Drive back to the Scope, turn it on;
14. Wait for the screen shows that USB Drive was attached.
15. Press Utility/System/Help/Local upgrade
16. The screen will turn to white background and follow the instruction to press any keys.
17. After the upgrade process is finished, the scope will reboot.
18. Done! Enjoy!

Please correct me if any mistake or typo. Thanks!

Thank you so much for all of you to contribute here!
 
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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1447 on: December 17, 2019, 10:35:16 pm »
Hi,

Your guy's could confirm that a MSO5074 70 Mhz version could be upgraded to 350 Mhz?  :popcorn:

Thanks,

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1448 on: December 17, 2019, 10:35:46 pm »
Sure... ;)

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1449 on: December 17, 2019, 10:39:23 pm »

Your guy's could confirm that a MSO5074 70 Mhz version could be upgraded to 350 Mhz?  :popcorn:


Measured bandwidth using a Leo Bodner pulser was 430-440 MHz.
 


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