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Re: Hantek - Tekway - DSO hack - get 200MHz bw for free
« Reply #1125 on: March 27, 2012, 04:36:54 pm »
well, the User Written SDK is ready and published :
(actually only the SD part of SDK .. the "K" is something you or Hantek have to do).

http://www.mikrocontroller.net/articles/Hantek_Protokoll

There is already a nice tool developed on base of the informations from the SD(K), check this:

http://www.dreisiebner.at/dso-usb-tool/


I'm not using Matlab nor LabView, so don't ask me for compiled drivers - use your power and develop one.
It is not that complex, all you need to access these DSOs is docummented.
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Re: Hantek - Tekway - DSO hack - get 200MHz bw for free
« Reply #1126 on: March 27, 2012, 08:49:57 pm »
Thanks for info. Work with comunication via USB with DSO is very major development for DSO.

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Re: Hantek - Tekway - DSO hack - get 200MHz bw for free
« Reply #1127 on: March 30, 2012, 12:14:29 pm »
I got the voltcraft dso3062c yesterday from Conrad in the Netherlands. The unit was now only 269 euros. How low can you go?

@tinhead respect for your great work on these hantekway devices!

I would like to change the startup logo after hacking the device to 200mhz. However the voltcraft /logo directory only contains the 3062c files. Where can I find logo's for the hantek/tekway devices?  I looked at the firmware updates but these seem only to contain files that are new or have changed.

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Re: Hantek - Tekway - DSO hack - get 200MHz bw for free
« Reply #1128 on: March 30, 2012, 12:52:00 pm »
this is crazy, isn't? 269EUR is just "nothing"

Yea, all latest fw versions are without logo files, anyway, you can gett all of them e.g. here

http://www.mikrocontroller.net/attachment/136103/all_logos.zip

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Re: Hantek - Tekway - DSO hack - get 200MHz bw for free
« Reply #1129 on: March 30, 2012, 01:50:10 pm »
http://www.mikrocontroller.net/attachment/136103/all_logos.zip

Thanks, I must have missed that when I scanned the thread at mikrocontroller.net.

I found a file called test in the root of the voltcraft that intrigued me.

Code: [Select]
/fpga.exe w 40 2E8E
/fpga.exe w 41 0050
/fpga.exe w 41 0600

/fpga.exe w 41 0614       #VGA 1

/fpga.exe w 16 6af0

/fpga.exe w 17 30

/fpga.exe w 18 6af0
/fpga.exe w 19 30

/fpga.exe w 1a b010
/fpga.exe w 1b 30

/fpga.exe w 1c b010
/fpga.exe w 1d 30

/fpga.exe w 1e 6c10

/fpga.exe w 1f 30

/fpga.exe w 20 0000
/fpga.exe w 21 30

/fpga.exe w 22 D000
/fpga.exe w 23 30

/fpga.exe w 24 6c10
/fpga.exe w 25 30

/fpga.exe w 00 9900
/fpga.exe w 01 0000
/fpga.exe w 0d 1000

/fpga.exe w 13 1000

/fpga.exe w 2d 0
/fpga.exe w 2d 2
/fpga.exe w 42 1
/fpga.exe w 42 0
/fpga.exe w 2d 0

Does it mean something to you?
 

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Re: Hantek - Tekway - DSO hack - get 200MHz bw for free
« Reply #1130 on: March 30, 2012, 01:51:52 pm »
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I got the voltcraft dso3062c yesterday from Conrad in the Netherlands. The unit was now only 269 euros. How low can you go?

Do you mean exclusive VAT - or from a shop?  Because when I look online at Conrad, the price is still € 299:
« Last Edit: April 01, 2012, 03:52:17 pm by marmad »
 

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Re: Hantek - Tekway - DSO hack - get 200MHz bw for free
« Reply #1131 on: March 30, 2012, 02:01:49 pm »
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I got the voltcraft dso3062c yesterday from Conrad in the Netherlands. The unit was now only 269 euros. How low can you go?

Do you mean exclusive VAT - or from a shop?  Because when I look online at Conrad, the price is still € 299:

Including VAT and shipping. Every once in a while conrad sends out coupon codes for a 10% discount. At least they do in the Netherlands.
 

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Re: Hantek - Tekway - DSO hack - get 200MHz bw for free
« Reply #1132 on: March 30, 2012, 02:39:35 pm »

I found a file called test in the root of the voltcraft that intrigued me.

Code: [Select]
/fpga.exe w 40 2E8E
/fpga.exe w 41 0050
/fpga.exe w 41 0600

/fpga.exe w 41 0614       #VGA 1

/fpga.exe w 16 6af0

/fpga.exe w 17 30

/fpga.exe w 18 6af0
/fpga.exe w 19 30

/fpga.exe w 1a b010
/fpga.exe w 1b 30

/fpga.exe w 1c b010
/fpga.exe w 1d 30

/fpga.exe w 1e 6c10

/fpga.exe w 1f 30

/fpga.exe w 20 0000
/fpga.exe w 21 30

/fpga.exe w 22 D000
/fpga.exe w 23 30

/fpga.exe w 24 6c10
/fpga.exe w 25 30

/fpga.exe w 00 9900
/fpga.exe w 01 0000
/fpga.exe w 0d 1000

/fpga.exe w 13 1000

/fpga.exe w 2d 0
/fpga.exe w 2d 2
/fpga.exe w 42 1
/fpga.exe w 42 0
/fpga.exe w 2d 0

Does it mean something to you?

yes it does. From what i know the fpga.exe is a executable which is accessing the FPGA registers,
it will be also used by /dso/app/testacq (which seems to be test app for DST3xxx and DST4xxx series only).

the output of fpga.exe is like
----------------------------- fpga.exe use guid --------------------------
-- fpga.exe w  addr dat : write single data to addr                     --
-- fpga.exe r  addr     : read single addr, single data                 --
-- fpga.exe R  addr len : read single addr, mutil data, d_disp, 10/line --
-------------------------------    end   ---------------------------------

however, this is one of these tools which are on my "check what they doind some day" ...
It seems that Hantek removed it from latest hardware models (hw1007x555583e9) anyway.
The reason why they did can be more the fact that they trying to hide something
and less that they "care about ppl haveing these nee models with new fpga design"

When i ran it on 83e8 and 83e9 models it is did exact the same, so what.

If wish to play with this a bit, check attached (which is missing on Voltcraft as well),
e.g. the line /fpga.exe w 41 0614 is controling VGA offset from ch1.
When yu check the schematic you will see what (mainly S&H)can be manipulated by changing of some FPGA registers values.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2012, 02:50:39 pm by tinhead »
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Re: Hantek - Tekway - DSO hack - get 200MHz bw for free
« Reply #1133 on: March 30, 2012, 03:18:44 pm »
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Including VAT and shipping. Every once in a while conrad sends out coupon codes for a 10% discount. At least they do in the Netherlands.

Ahh.... I see.  I rarely ever buy anything from Conrad - they are normally much more expensive for electronics - so I don't expect to get any coupon codes from them.  So it might be more advantageous to get it from digitalo.de or voelkner.de. instead, since it's only € 3 more for the shipping - and then it's possible to avoid paying the VAT up front (instead of having to deduct it later) - thus paying about  € 260.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2012, 03:20:40 pm by marmad »
 

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Re: Hantek - Tekway - DSO hack - get 200MHz bw for free
« Reply #1134 on: March 30, 2012, 03:30:14 pm »
Ahh.... I see.  I rarely ever buy anything from Conrad - they are normally much more expensive for electronics

Same here. If I need it quicky, I use farnell for their free shipping and next day delivery. Bargains come from china. But once in a while conrad suprises me, like now.
 

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Re: Hantek - Tekway - DSO hack - get 200MHz bw for free
« Reply #1135 on: March 30, 2012, 03:39:02 pm »
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Same here. If I need it quicky, I use farnell for their free shipping and next day delivery. Bargains come from china. But once in a while conrad suprises me, like now.

True... and I just searched for the actiecode you mentioned and found it still available online!  :D  Wow, that means a price of € 226 (excl. BTW) if paid with iDEAL - that's a pretty amazing price.
 

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Re: Hantek - Tekway - DSO hack - get 200MHz bw for free
« Reply #1136 on: March 30, 2012, 03:39:25 pm »
I wrote a simple python script to convert the ico files from the /logo directory to png. Enjoy.

Thanks to @tinhead for extracting the palette.

Next step will be the other way around.
 

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Re: Hantek - Tekway - DSO hack - get 200MHz bw for free
« Reply #1137 on: March 30, 2012, 04:24:52 pm »
Here is the script to create an ico file from an image (eg png). Enjoy.
 

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Re: Hantek - Tekway - DSO hack - get 200MHz bw for free
« Reply #1138 on: March 30, 2012, 04:30:45 pm »
nice scripts, thanks!
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Re: Hantek - Tekway - DSO hack - get 200MHz bw for free
« Reply #1139 on: March 31, 2012, 09:58:38 am »
On 1M bench model two IS42S16160C-7TL(I) (http://www.issi.com/pdf/42-45S83200D-16160D.pdf)
memory's are used. I assume two of IS42S16320b-7TLI (http://www.issi.com/pdf/42S16320B-86400B.pdf) are suitable replacement for 2M upgrade?
 

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Re: Hantek - Tekway - DSO hack - get 200MHz bw for free
« Reply #1140 on: March 31, 2012, 10:19:40 am »
On 1M bench model two IS42S16160C-7TL(I) (http://www.issi.com/pdf/42-45S83200D-16160D.pdf)
memory's are used. I assume two of IS42S16320b-7TLI (http://www.issi.com/pdf/42S16320B-86400B.pdf) are suitable replacement for 2M upgrade?

no, this is SDRAM (for ARM) not the sample RAM.

What you need is IS61LPS51236A-200TQLI (for example digikey 706-1100-ND)
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Re: Hantek - Tekway - DSO hack - get 200MHz bw for free
« Reply #1141 on: April 01, 2012, 11:24:18 am »
Before and after  :D
 

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Re: Hantek - Tekway - DSO hack - get 200MHz bw for free
« Reply #1142 on: April 01, 2012, 11:53:43 am »
@mightyzen - Your report of the 10% off action at Conrad (NL/BE) has gotten me excited to pull the trigger on a Voltcraft (HanTekway) scope.  I assume the scope came with 60MHz probes - did you buy another set?

The best buy I can currently find on a higher-bandwidth set is:  http://www.reichelt.de/Tastkoepfe-und-Zubehoer/TESTEC-MF-312-2/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=5;GROUP=D169;GROUPID=4043;ARTICLE=48467;START=0;SORT=user;OFFSET=16;SID=13T1D-mH8AAAIAAG3fMaI898a7da000ecbd08212a4af587f46bf2

Does anyone know of a better deal?
 

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Re: Hantek - Tekway - DSO hack - get 200MHz bw for free
« Reply #1143 on: April 01, 2012, 01:41:57 pm »
@mightyzen - Your report of the 10% off action at Conrad (NL/BE) has gotten me excited to pull the trigger on a Voltcraft (HanTekway) scope.  I assume the scope came with 60MHz probes - did you buy another set?

The best buy I can currently find on a higher-bandwidth set is:  http://www.reichelt.de/Tastkoepfe-und-Zubehoer/TESTEC-MF-312-2/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=5;GROUP=D169;GROUPID=4043;ARTICLE=48467;START=0;SORT=user;OFFSET=16;SID=13T1D-mH8AAAIAAG3fMaI898a7da000ecbd08212a4af587f46bf2

Does anyone know of a better deal?

Search eBay for "PP-200", they're about 12-15 Euros plus shipping/customs from China.

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Re: Hantek - Tekway - DSO hack - get 200MHz bw for free
« Reply #1144 on: April 01, 2012, 01:55:04 pm »
Search eBay for "PP-200", they're about 12-15 Euros plus shipping/customs from China.

Or search for UT-P05, you can get two for that price.

I'm using tektronix 200mhz 10x probes.
« Last Edit: April 01, 2012, 01:57:17 pm by mightyzen »
 

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Re: Hantek - Tekway - DSO hack - get 200MHz bw for free
« Reply #1145 on: April 01, 2012, 02:11:01 pm »
If you guys didn't see this topic below, it's worth checking. The Electrician tested some cheap 100MHz probes till 200/300MHz, costs are less than 8 dollar inc. shipment.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/product-reviews-photos-and-discussion/cheapest-100mhz-oscilloscope-probes-hands-on-review/

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Re: Hantek - Tekway - DSO hack - get 200MHz bw for free
« Reply #1146 on: April 01, 2012, 02:19:58 pm »
Thanks for the great tips everyone!  ;)

@Spawn - one question about your cheap probes - how soft is the 1x/10x switch?  When I had the Rigol DS1052E, I found that I was constantly accidentally changing the probe switch without realizing it (until later).
 

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Re: Hantek - Tekway - DSO hack - get 200MHz bw for free
« Reply #1147 on: April 01, 2012, 02:40:01 pm »
Marmad, I never got them in 1x or 10x by accident but I don’t use my oscilloscopes as much as you do I think. 
I just checked the switch again and you need little force to change its position like any other switch at that size, and you get nice feedback when you change the position, you just feel it.

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Re: Hantek - Tekway - DSO hack - get 200MHz bw for free
« Reply #1148 on: April 01, 2012, 03:20:22 pm »
Place a rubber band on the shaft, it will keep it from moving unless you do so purposefully.  If you have orthodontic rubber bands, they are the right size [like you know someone who has braces], you can also add them to any probe to help improve its grip while being electrically inert.  If colored you can also use extras to color code your cables, unlike the color bands many probes ship with that easily fall off; I use colored zip ties to color mark cables as latex bands eventually degrade.




Thanks for the great tips everyone!  ;)

@Spawn - one question about your cheap probes - how soft is the 1x/10x switch?  When I had the Rigol DS1052E, I found that I was constantly accidentally changing the probe switch without realizing it (until later).
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Re: Hantek - Tekway - DSO hack - get 200MHz bw for free
« Reply #1149 on: April 01, 2012, 03:22:34 pm »
FFS… why the hell did I read last bit of this topic now :D

Mightyzen, you got me thinking too, I didn’t know the Voltcraft rebadged these and Conrad extended 10% till 3 april yesterday (I am subscribed to their daily news) 
I am not in need in a DSO but the price is so low for 200Mhz scope and I can’t resist to get one, I got 2 more days to think about it, meanwhile I need to read this whole thread now thanks for that  ::)  :P


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