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Offline nuvalo

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Help with a hot air solder gun (voltages, etc...)
« on: June 04, 2014, 04:05:28 pm »
Hello

I'm sorry if this was already answered or if i'm in the wrong forum, i did a fast search and didn't found anything related. I bought this hot air solder gun by mistake, i thought that it was the gun that included the AC adapter (yes, i have to pay more attention to what i'm buying). Here is the link to the seller, It says that it is suitable for 858 and compatible soldering stations:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171193980313?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

I have the pinout of the plug and  several ac/dc adaptors that would work (i dont need right now the temperature sensor), i was thinking in attaching one to the hot air gun. Can it be done? Wich voltages do i need for the heating wire? I'll buy a soldering station, but i need the hot air gun "now".

I know that the fan needs 12v, but i don't know the voltage for the heating wire, can i attach it directly to 220V? Can i attach a potenciometer or something similar to work as a voltage regulator?  I've searching for the voltages of the heating wire, but i have found nothing. I have attached some photos of the heating gun, if it helps.

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Re: Help with a hot air solder gun (voltages, etc...)
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2014, 10:07:33 pm »
I hate to ask, you do not have the related 'hot air station' that this apparently needs (whatever that might be)??
Judging by the 24 (or maybe 22 gauge) internal wires, I would like to think it is 12 volts.
« Last Edit: June 04, 2014, 10:09:25 pm by videobruce »
 

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Re: Help with a hot air solder gun (voltages, etc...)
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2014, 10:16:38 pm »
No, you can't just hook it straight up to 240V and go. You need to buy the appropriate control station or build your own. Look around the forum for threads on the 858D+.

Buying will be easier.

Judging by the 24 (or maybe 22 gauge) internal wires, I would like to think it is 12 volts.

You what? How the hell do you think those wires will handle the currents required for any output power at 12V?
 

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Re: Help with a hot air solder gun (voltages, etc...)
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2014, 10:38:33 pm »
It would probably be good enough to melt butter. I did say, "like to think". ::)
« Last Edit: June 04, 2014, 10:41:20 pm by videobruce »
 

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Re: Help with a hot air solder gun (voltages, etc...)
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2014, 09:50:52 am »
I hate to ask, you do not have the related 'hot air station' that this apparently needs (whatever that might be)??
Judging by the 24 (or maybe 22 gauge) internal wires, I would like to think it is 12 volts.

No, i'm looking for one right now, but it seems that i can only buy the whole pack (hot air gun + station). That is why i was wondering if i could use the gun without the station, just to save a few bucks and time.

No, you can't just hook it straight up to 240V and go. You need to buy the appropriate control station or build your own. Look around the forum for threads on the 858D+.

Buying will be easier.


Thanks,i think that i'll sell this gun and buy the complete pack. This was what i wanted to buy, something simple and small, what do you think? is it "safe"?:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171267590565?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
 

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Re: Help with a hot air solder gun (voltages, etc...)
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2014, 10:34:20 am »
Why are you looking at this junk?? You aren't going to get anything even 1/4 the way decent with this crap.
Forget about buying from Asia, especially through eBay. All of that is pure crap. It's not that it's just from China, it's the bottom of the barrel as far as quality.
not in the 'toy' price range.  :--

Like this;
http://www.amazon.com/X-TRONIC-9020-XTS-SOLDERING-STATION-EXTRACTOR/dp/B00A2VQA24/ref=sr_1_19?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1401964387&sr=1-19
 

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Re: Help with a hot air solder gun (voltages, etc...)
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2014, 12:41:40 pm »
Thanks,i think that i'll sell this gun and buy the complete pack. This was what i wanted to buy, something simple and small, what do you think? is it "safe"?:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171267590565?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

This is the style you've now got a spare handle for.

As for safety, please read the forum threads on these and make yourself fully aware of their limitations.

Why are you looking at this junk?? You aren't going to get anything even 1/4 the way decent with this crap.
Forget about buying from Asia, especially through eBay. All of that is pure crap. It's not that it's just from China, it's the bottom of the barrel as far as quality.
not in the 'toy' price range.  :--

Like this;
http://www.amazon.com/X-TRONIC-9020-XTS-SOLDERING-STATION-EXTRACTOR/dp/B00A2VQA24/ref=sr_1_19?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1401964387&sr=1-19

Because not everyone has the money for better quality tools? That 'x-tronic' crap is nothing to write home about, either. It comes from the same factories.
 

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Re: Help with a hot air solder gun (voltages, etc...)
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2014, 01:07:24 pm »
Hot air stations that have a 240V heater in the handle don't usually have a detachable handle, probably for safety reasons.
 

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Re: Help with a hot air solder gun (voltages, etc...)
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2014, 01:08:37 pm »
Hot air stations that have a 240V heater in the handle don't usually have a detachable handle, probably for safety reasons.

Since when do the cheap chinese manufacturers care? Usually only cost they give a crap about.
 

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Re: Help with a hot air solder gun (voltages, etc...)
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2014, 02:43:10 pm »
I'd take the loss and spend another $65 on an Atten 858D+. Recently I bought a second 858D+ as a spare: http://www.ebay.com/itm/221173657450
You can't go wrong on a hot air station. It just spits out fried air...
« Last Edit: June 05, 2014, 02:45:57 pm by nctnico »
There are small lies, big lies and then there is what is on the screen of your oscilloscope.
 

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Re: Help with a hot air solder gun (voltages, etc...)
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2014, 12:41:22 pm »
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Because not everyone has the money for better quality tools? That 'x-tronic' crap is nothing to write home about, either. It comes from the same factories.
That isn't something corners should be cut that much. It is far better than those toys that he provided links to. It did have a fair amount of decent reviews though.

Besides, it was a fast search.  ;)
« Last Edit: June 06, 2014, 12:43:23 pm by videobruce »
 


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Re: Help with a hot air solder gun (voltages, etc...)
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2014, 06:21:09 pm »
Try here;

http://www.circuitspecialists.com/hot-air-station
That is the same stuff you can buy from China directly  :palm: What is your point? That it is better to buy 'made in China' stuff from a store in the US?

BTW: I see several hot-air + soldering iron solutions. Don't buy those because the Chinese irons are really crap. Invest in something like Ersa or JBC even if it is second hand.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2014, 06:23:54 pm by nctnico »
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Re: Help with a hot air solder gun (voltages, etc...)
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2014, 07:23:00 pm »
BTW: I see several hot-air + soldering iron solutions. Don't buy those because the Chinese irons are really crap.
I have bought one of those :)
 


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