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| Simon:
--- Quote from: Mechatrommer on January 27, 2019, 08:53:49 am --- --- Quote from: Simon on January 27, 2019, 08:44:23 am ---1) Do not start posting all over the forum about your product or i will ban you as a spammer --- End quote --- is that one of eevblog forum's rule? --- End quote --- Err yes, it's called spamming. Promoting of commercial products on the forum without prior arrangements is the definition of spamming. I don't mind a single topic like this but if the OP starts posting links to his product on any discussion about oscilloscopes it becomes spamming. Like i say the best way to get this promoted is send one to Dave like everyone else does. |
| Mechatrommer:
--- Quote from: Simon on January 27, 2019, 09:00:14 am ---I don't mind a single topic like this but if the OP starts posting links to his product on any discussion about oscilloscopes it becomes spamming. --- End quote --- what about putting ads in signature? it will reflects in all posts, from the beginning till the end = post count. regardless of thread topics? --- Quote from: Simon on January 27, 2019, 09:00:14 am ---Like i say the best way to get this promoted is send one to Dave like everyone else does. --- End quote --- imho, dave is one way to get publicity (if the product is good) but its just a small part. how do we expect small one single man starting business to grow? google ads (which to me is "unsolicited") costs money. imho you should reply in the offending post in the other thread, here he asked for advice. |
| Simon:
Oh dear, how long have you been a member here? Forum signatures are not spam in themselves. BUT if a user makes nonsensical posts in threads just to get their signature to show then they are also banned as spammers. Don't worry my friend we have all options covered and i am trying to be fair. Many spammers join, post nonsensical posts and then update their signature thinking that they have gone under the radar which is why nonsensical posts get a user banned as we know that game already. The OP has joined this forum purely to promote his product. That in itself is grounds for banning but as he is being more engaging than the usual hit and run spammer I and giving him some space. I cannot be fairer than that. If you have a good product and you send it to Dave it's the best thing you could do. Also apparently there is no such thing as bad publicity...... I'm sure Rigol owe a lot of their success to Dave for that initial review of their famous scope. I bought one because I saw Daves review. It was not a promotion it was an honest appraisal of something i knew little about from an engineer, what more could I AND Rigol ask for ? |
| jiangtao.lv:
Thanks for advice, Simon, I wont do that. On Chinese technical forums, spammers are also not welcomed either. I'm familiar with Chinese fellows' thinking, but i am frustrated with this global new group of engineers. I really don't know how to embrace them, what they care about, what way they are thinking. I learn a lot difference between us today,I think I will try my best to promote it from this 0 base. I may record some progress and share them here,maybe some engineer fellows ,especially junior ones, want to see how I run a product successfully or make it dead? I will contact Dave for a further help. |
| jeremy:
Hi Jiangtao, I'm no expert on this, but to me the student/hobbyist/maker market is very different to the "professional engineer" market. You probably need to treat them separately. Professional engineers probably already have an oscilloscope, or could easily find the money to buy a 100MHz/1Gsps oscilloscope. So the real question is why would they spend extra money to change to your product? In addition, unless the company uses some particularly special equipment, engineering time in most western companies is far more expensive than the cost of electronic test equipment (I am not sure if it is this way in China). So people (well, at least the smart ones) will be wary of purchasing unknown equipment that could waste the time of their engineers. To me personally, anything with less than 1Gsps @ 8bit is not an oscilloscope, regardless of how it is marketed; it is a data logger. The market has simply moved on from that. I don't see myself buying an 8 bit acquisition device with a lower sample rate ever again. Non-paid testimonials are very important as well; you should contact people like dave jones/eevblog, mikeselectricstuff, etc. These people may not be very visible in China as they are mostly youtube-based, but they are very well regarded elsewhere in my experience. Be aware that these people will tell you exactly what they think (or at least I trust them to do that!); if they think the product is rubbish they will make a video telling everyone that it is rubbish. Some other points: - your website seems to just show a forum with garbage posts; most of them are just silly pictures or keyboard mashing. This looks pretty bad. - the downloads section does not actually have any downloads, and "more details" links do not actually show more details. This also looks pretty bad. - you may need someone who is a good native english speaker to proofread and correct your documentation and website. Even though I understand there is a language barrier and that it is difficult, if I read documentation with poor english and yet the company is trying to sell me (an english speaker) their product, it looks to me like they just want to take my money and run. It's different in conversation/forums/etc because people realise that you do not have any time to prepare or proofread. I suggest you look at the picoscope website and forums; after all, they would be your direct competitor. I am a happy picoscope customer myself! PS: I'm not proud of this last point, but I've noticed that if I see the SimSun type fonts I become immediately suspicious of the accuracy of the documentation. I guess it is because I have used many Chinese electronic products/parts with incorrect or poor quality english documentation, and I have now subconsciously associated that font with poor quality products in general :-// I've never seen a product from a non-Chinese company that uses that font. Western companies have mistakes in their datasheets too, but they don't all use the same font ;) |
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