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| marck120:
@Neutrion, @DW1961, @rsjsouza, @Trader In particular, the FLUKE 15B + is very interesting, it falls within my budget: https://www.ebay.it/itm/123770864016?hash=item1cd1518190:g:oBsAAOSw3QpZbFpG https://it.aliexpress.com/item/33045309725.html?src=google&src=google&memo1=freelisting&albch=shopping&acnt=494-037-6276&slnk=&plac=&mtctp=&albbt=Google_7_shopping&albagn=888888&isSmbAutoCall=false&needSmbHouyi=false&albcp=9317477424&albag=97096040627&trgt=536572975094&crea=it33045309725&netw=u&device=c&albpg=536572975094&albpd=it33045309725&gclid=Cj0KCQjwrJOMBhCZARIsAGEd4VFBmEXsCX-JxT_-6AHJeErfH0Vg6EsZFqosEo4Vh8sB7cjBby9OcrcaAvW-EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds&aff_fcid=e4b72e6b1ebb4a298c9e07e13adcabf6-1636151252084-02791-UneMJZVf&aff_fsk=UneMJZVf&aff_platform=aaf&sk=UneMJZVf&aff_trace_key=e4b72e6b1ebb4a298c9e07e13adcabf6-1636151252084-02791-UneMJZVf&terminal_id=20595a34fc63406d91c5329d9794bd56 Unfortunately, on Amazon.com the shipping costs are too high: In this price range it seems important to me to compare the FLUKE 15B + with the Brymen bm257s, with the FLUKE 15B + did you explain to me that I have fewer functions ? Can't I measure amplifiers with the FLUKE 15B + ? With google translate I can't understand, what is meant by amplifiers ? How build quality and internal components is the FLUKE 15B + better than the Brymen bm257s ? In this regard, I found some discussion: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/brymen-bm257s-or-fluke-17b/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskElectronics/comments/d1qr2i/brymen_bm235_vs_fluke_17b/ |
| xbb:
If you buy the Brymen I don't think you'll regret it ever, get one with silicone leads. You can buy it from https://brymen.eu/, https://welectron.com/ or https://www.tme.eu/ Another cheap option to consider might be this: https://www.amazon.it/AmazonCommercial-Compact-Digital-Mulitmeter-Temperature/dp/B083V7N12H/, but I'm not sure how safe/durable it is If you want the Aneng, I can tell you that it's safe to buy from the official store in AliExpress |
| tautech:
marck120 I have a 15B (not +) and it's an excellent basic DMM however be aware 15 & 17's come from Asia and do not have international warranty. Nearly 10 years back when I got mine and a bunch of them for a customer I brought extras as the local supplier so to offer a replacement warranty but being Fluke of course that wasn't needed. :) Our customer got one of the little US made reference boards to keep an eye on their accuracy and after a year only a couple out of 15 needed tweaking to have the LSD match for them all and of course they were all still in spec despite daily the use by Avionics cadets. These have some miniature pots in them so you can adjust them if required although again being Fluke that's proven to be unlikely. If I was to upgrade and I'm not, Daves BM235 would be a likely candidate although I have heard reports the selector switch in Bymens are stiffer than many other DMM's and that might be a :-- for me. YMMV. Must try Defpom's one next I visit him with gear to review. |
| bdunham7:
--- Quote from: marck120 on November 05, 2021, 11:01:58 pm ---Can't I measure amplifiers with the FLUKE 15B + ? With google translate I can't understand, what is meant by amplifiers ? How build quality and internal components is the FLUKE 15B + better than the Brymen bm257s ? --- End quote --- I'm not sure what "amplifiers" means in this context either, perhaps audio? The Fluke 15B is a Chinese market only meter AFAIK and would not have any official warranty in your country. It is also average-responding on AC volts, not TRMS--and has a very limited bandwidth as well. Someone correct me if any of that is wrong as I've never laid hands on one. The BM235 and 257s have an on-chip sampling TRMS that is also low bandwidth (under 1kHz) only. If you want audio-frequency BW on AC volts, you need to go up a few models. As for the build quality, the word is that they're both perfectly adequate, but I've no personal experience. |
| marck120:
@xbb I agree with you, the Brymen are high quality multimeters, I was only making a comparison with the FLUKE 15B + since both are excellent, in terms of value for money and functions, perhaps the Brymen bm257s is better The AmazonCommercial multimeter looks great, there are tons of models, it takes a long time to do research on all models. Yes, the official Aneng shop should look like this: https://en.aliexpress.com/item/33004463675.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_promotion.promoteRecommendProducts_undefined.13 @tautech I did not know that the Fluke 15 and 17 came from Asia and as you explained to me without international warranty. In case you had to upgrade your multimeters you told me you would choose a Daves BM235, a custom Brymen basically, so I assume the Fluke 15 and 17 are quite dated models and you think the Brymens are better than the Flukes in question. I believe the Brymen bm257s has more functions than the FLUKE 15B +, as build quality I cannot say which is the best. In the end, accuracy is important when it comes to measurements. @ bdunham7 I also had thought of an audio amplifier, I don't know, if in my country there is no official guarantee for the Fluke 15B then it is better to leave it alone, maybe bought on a European shop the guarantee of the European community is applied, I don't know how it works. No the BW in audio frequency on volts AC does not interest me also because I do not even know what it means. ^-^ Perhaps the Brymen bm257s has more features. |
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