Author Topic: Inexpensive low current DC current clamp  (Read 791 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline BeBuLamarTopic starter

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 1421
  • Country: us
Inexpensive low current DC current clamp
« on: October 28, 2024, 02:56:46 pm »
I need a recommendation for a low current DC clamp. Either a stand alone or one to be used with a DMM. What I use it for is to trace a short. Generally I would have a machine powered by a 24VDC power supply that powers a lot of circuits. If there is a short in one of the wire it will kill the output of the power supply. What I want to do is to remove the power supply and substitute it for one with current limiting and limit the current to a relative low current. Then with an amp clamp I can check the current flow thru the whole bunch of wires that attached to the DC bus one by one. The one that draws a lot of current would be the one. So the clamp should have relative small jaw as there wires are small, 20 or 18 AWG. Accuracy isn't important. I need resolution but not accuracy and I don't want to pay big buck.
 

Offline nctnico

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 28429
  • Country: nl
    • NCT Developments
Re: Inexpensive low current DC current clamp
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2024, 02:58:27 pm »
A thermal camera is likely more suitable as this will also show the point where the short is (literally a hotspot in most cases).
There are small lies, big lies and then there is what is on the screen of your oscilloscope.
 

Offline BeBuLamarTopic starter

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 1421
  • Country: us
Re: Inexpensive low current DC current clamp
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2024, 03:03:40 pm »
Not enough current to produce enough heat for that. Generally the normal power supply when it got such a short would shut it down on over current so there is no chance to detect the heat. When I power it up with a power supply with current limiting but not shutting down on dead short I have relatively low current and not much heat.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2024, 03:05:54 pm by BeBuLamar »
 

Online RAPo

  • Frequent Contributor
  • **
  • Posts: 858
  • Country: nl
Re: Inexpensive low current DC current clamp
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2024, 03:11:55 pm »
Does the fit your requirements and price bracket?
 

Offline aluminumfoilteslacoil

  • Newbie
  • Posts: 3
  • Country: us
Re: Inexpensive low current DC current clamp
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2024, 03:22:45 pm »
Wow, that Owon seems like a great value. Under $40 from what I'm seeing. A Fluke that does DC current is well over $300.
 

Offline DaneLaw

  • Frequent Contributor
  • **
  • Posts: 661
  • Country: dk
Re: Inexpensive low current DC current clamp
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2024, 05:39:32 am »
Have you used the forums search function?
IMO it has been debated to the moon and back, which current clamps are suited for which use cases.

Would be the best place for you to start.
 
The following users thanked this post: thm_w

Offline BeBuLamarTopic starter

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 1421
  • Country: us
Re: Inexpensive low current DC current clamp
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2024, 11:42:04 am »
Have you used the forums search function?
IMO it has been debated to the moon and back, which current clamps are suited for which use cases.

Would be the best place for you to start.

I found nobody talking about using a current clamp to trace a short circuit.
 

Offline tszaboo

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 8218
  • Country: nl
  • Current job: ATEX product design
Re: Inexpensive low current DC current clamp
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2024, 11:55:46 am »
Have you used the forums search function?
IMO it has been debated to the moon and back, which current clamps are suited for which use cases.

Would be the best place for you to start.

I found nobody talking about using a current clamp to trace a short circuit.
If your power supply has a latch-off function, indeed it could be annoying to trace a short circuit in wires. If you cannot disconnect the wires to eliminate the issue, then a clamp might work. I have the UT-210E that I bough for about 30 USD years ago, somehow it's now cost twice as much.
In my experience you get maybe 600mA residual magnetic field/earth magnetic field on the lowest range (2A DC), that you need to zero out, and then move the meter as little as possible.
 

Offline The Soulman

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 1046
  • Country: nl
  • The sky is the limit!
Re: Inexpensive low current DC current clamp
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2024, 12:05:39 pm »
For your use case I can recommend the Peaktech 4250 (or equivalent).
Smaller jaws and not having to twist your head in a awkward position to read a display is a real plus imho.
You may need to do some easy mods:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/peaktech-4250-acdc-current-clamp-teardown-and-repair/msg1398936/#msg1398936
 

Online RAPo

  • Frequent Contributor
  • **
  • Posts: 858
  • Country: nl
Re: Inexpensive low current DC current clamp
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2024, 12:51:09 pm »
You can buy the Owon in bluetooth variant, displaying the data in an app on your phone  ...

...
Smaller jaws and not having to twist your head in a awkward position to read a display is a real plus imho.
 

Offline BeBuLamarTopic starter

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 1421
  • Country: us
Re: Inexpensive low current DC current clamp
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2024, 12:59:52 pm »
Have you used the forums search function?
IMO it has been debated to the moon and back, which current clamps are suited for which use cases.

Would be the best place for you to start.

I found nobody talking about using a current clamp to trace a short circuit.
If your power supply has a latch-off function, indeed it could be annoying to trace a short circuit in wires. If you cannot disconnect the wires to eliminate the issue, then a clamp might work. I have the UT-210E that I bough for about 30 USD years ago, somehow it's now cost twice as much.
In my experience you get maybe 600mA residual magnetic field/earth magnetic field on the lowest range (2A DC), that you need to zero out, and then move the meter as little as possible.
Most of the machines I work with has power supply that shut themselves off when overcurrent. You have to disconnect them from the AC input and reconnect them to make them work again. I can remove the wires but there can be 20, 30 or even more wires connected to the same power supply. It's a real pain. I currently use a Fluke 374 and it does work however there are 2 things I don't like about it. It only read down to .1A and the jaw is big and hard to get to a single wire in a bundle.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2024, 01:01:40 pm by BeBuLamar »
 

Offline vlelectroniclab

  • Contributor
  • Posts: 16
  • Country: it
Re: Inexpensive low current DC current clamp
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2024, 01:04:36 pm »
Hi,
I recommend you an APP MA5, it has a good resolution for small currents.
Consider that they produce for benning germany.
 


Share me

Digg  Facebook  SlashDot  Delicious  Technorati  Twitter  Google  Yahoo
Smf