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Is Rigol DS1054Z still a good option in 2019?
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nctnico:

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--- Quote from: nctnico on August 02, 2019, 10:47:10 pm ---If I got a DS1054Z on my desk at a new job I'd quit the next day. If a company can't afford proper tools for me to maximize my productivity

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You don't know the job being done. If you start demanding top end equipment for basic tasks then I wouldn't want to hire you.

It's a poor workman who blames his tools.

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That is utter nonsense. That boils down to 'if you only have a hammer then everything looks like a nail'.

Good tools improve productivity. It is a poor workman who can't get an optimal productivity from good tools or recognize better tools can improve efficiency.

If I hire someone and they want a DS1054Z as a scope then I'd tell them no. It is time for you to use a real oscilloscope (likely something in the 1.5k to 4k euro range).
BillB:

--- Quote from: nctnico on August 03, 2019, 01:10:26 pm ---If I hire someone and they want a DS1054Z as a scope then I'd tell them no. It is time for you to use a real oscilloscope (likely something in the 1.5k to 4k euro range).

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Why stop there?  Why not the 15k to 40k euro range, or perhaps 150k to 400k?  I think the answer to that question is the answer to why some companies might need to make do in the 400 euro range.

At my company, we have a wide variety of tasking.  Some can be easily completed with low cost equipment, some cannot.  If an associate engineer wanted to use a DS1054Z to perform quick,basic I2C decoding then why not?  If he asked to use a DS1054Z to take critical measurement in a microwave RF circuit, then of course he'd be directed to use more appropriate equipment.

While I agree in principle that high quality tools pay for themselves, sometimes the reality is that we can't afford them all the time.     
nctnico:
No, but a reasonable business (in a Western country) should be able to afford an oscilloscope costing about a one month's cost of an engineer. Otherwise it is likely they can't afford the engineer in the first place.
Mr. Scram:

--- Quote from: nctnico on August 03, 2019, 01:42:47 pm ---No, but a reasonable business (in a Western country) should be able to afford an oscilloscope costing about a one month's cost of an engineer. Otherwise it is likely they can't afford the engineer in the first place.

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"We sure could do the job with this tool boss, but we simply wanted to spend more of your money than the problem required. I'm sure you understand."

If there's anything I've learnt it's that horrible bosses insist on meddling with how you do a job, rather than assessing the result. Besides, I think it was in one of Dave's videos where we saw the ubiquitous cheap Korad power supplies being used in a billion dollar telescope installation. Maybe we should be write those people they're doing it wrong and should have been using a Keysight supply all along. ;D
Fungus:

--- Quote from: nctnico on August 03, 2019, 01:10:26 pm ---That is utter nonsense. That boils down to 'if you only have a hammer then everything looks like a nail'.

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Rubbish. If your only job is nailing things down then you don't need a 500 piece socket set and an angle drinder.

Any employee who asked for those should be turned down, it wouldn't increase their productivity and the money can be spent on something the will increase productivity elsewhere.

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