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Is Rigol DS1054Z still a good option in 2019?
Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: tautech on August 03, 2019, 09:30:09 pm ---What many of the armchair TE jockeys here do not have is the experience to assess an individual buyers needs and of you lot squabbling over brands nctnico is most in tune with this as he has used many brands in his professional career.
The best solution for any buyer is not always straightforward and is certainly not always cost based is best.
Just like selecting a hammer there are many that will do the job and some that are many times better than just a hunk of steel on the end of a handle.
Aside from that the OP is no doubt enjoying these squabbles going by the lack of his participation but no doubt recognizes the advantages of staying with a brand an UI that he's already very familiar with.....that adds up to a significant saving in personal hobbyist time, something we are always short of to pursue our interests.
Brand choice here is not so much the issue but UI so the OP can quickly use a familiar UI in his precious spare time and not return to work on a Monday having to relearn the UI in the scope his employer supplies. His 'at work' performance could also benefit from the ahrs use of a scope very similar to the one he uses at work.
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Siglent dealer says OP should buy "a very similar" oscilloscope to the one at work, which happens to be a Siglent :=\ The comment about squabbles is amusing as almost all of the squabbles on this forum are ignited or fanned by a handful of usual suspects pushing "their" brand, at least two of which are Siglent sellers.
tautech:
--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on August 03, 2019, 09:53:14 pm ---Siglent dealer says OP should buy "a very similar" oscilloscope to the one at work, which happens to be a Siglent......
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And you dismiss that as of nil value ? :-//
When the perfect scope is made and one can switch from one to another without impact on throughput and any fuss, then you might have some point.
nctnico:
--- Quote from: Fungus on August 03, 2019, 09:41:13 pm ---I think you underestimate people. Oscilloscopes aren't that complex to use or wildly different from each other.
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You couldn't be more wrong here... some oscilloscopes can be a real PITA to use. Especially if you want to use things like decoding, probe multipliers, math, etc. Some are easy to setup, others need going through menus endlessly. A good UI and clever tricks to improve productivity often don't make it to the datasheet but they make a huge difference. I used to own an Agilent MSO7104A. This is a higher-end scope (especially when introduced) but a total pain to setup beyond getting wiggly lines. Much to my own surprise I ended up liking the GW Instek (I bought as a brind-along scope) better because it is so much easier to use. I still have & use the GW Instek. The MSO7104A got sold a long time ago.
Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: tautech on August 03, 2019, 09:58:32 pm ---And you dismiss that as of nil value ? :-//
When the perfect scope is made and one can switch from one to another without impact on throughput and any fuss, then you might have some point.
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Essentially. One could argue in depth experience with more platforms and being better prepared for anything the world at large can throw at you is more valuable than being comfortable immediately. Flexible employees are valuable employees. Experiencing different design approaches and angles and seeing what works and what doesn't is also a valuable experience for any technician or engineer. It's one of the reasons we watch Dave's videos after all. Besides, a new oscilloscope isn't exactly a night and day affair.
tautech:
--- Quote from: nctnico on August 03, 2019, 10:04:41 pm ---
--- Quote from: Fungus on August 03, 2019, 09:41:13 pm ---I think you underestimate people. Oscilloscopes aren't that complex to use or wildly different from each other.
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You couldn't be more wrong here... some oscilloscopes can be a real PITA to use. Especially if you want to use things like decoding and math. Some are easy to setup, others need going through menus endlessly. A good UI and clever tricks to improve productivity often don't make it to the datasheet but they make a huge difference.
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Yep all that.
Of the Teks (CRO's and DSO's), HP's Telequipment, Philips, BWD, Atten, Siglent and yes Rigol I've used the variance in UI is immense just to do the same thing ! ::)
That modern equipment all have deeper menu structures can make them harder to use, not just because of substantially more functionality but mostly hidden menu controls whereas they were once all on the front panel.
Each piece of equipment takes precious time to learn and the buyer of any new brand must be aware if this as it can dramatically impact on productivity until familiarity and muscle memory builds to help out.
A little time one on one spent with customers helps them immensely to get to grips with a new instrument and never do they think this to be wasted time.
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